Feb. 2007 Hot Rod Hemi vs Stage 1 article

Discussion in 'The Bench' started by Ebling, Dec 13, 2006.

  1. CJay

    CJay Supercar owner Staff Member


    Even if Stage 2s were allowed, they would more than likely only allow the factory cast iron heads. Buick only made around 75 (?) sets. Stage 2 are probaby worth around 6-7k for a set- if you can find a pair. Then you have to port them. I dont know if I would risk racing a set. It wouldnt be worth it if they got damaged.
     
  2. PPPJJJFFF

    PPPJJJFFF Well-Known Member


    Stage 2 heads (like aluminum heads) are not allowed. :laugh: If they weren't installed at the factory, its a no no.

    Patrick
     
  3. CJay

    CJay Supercar owner Staff Member

    I realize that, it was a hypothetical statement :pp
     
  4. benderbrew

    benderbrew Well-Known Member

    Jason, I have a set of cast iron Stage IIs on my 464, in a 65 lark. They flow around 310 and were heavely ported by a very respected member of this club. I've had some mighty hugh offers on purchasing them.....just waiting until someone comes up with enough money so I can run out and by a cad. LOL Actually it's just the idea of having something original on the engine and not an after market add on.
     
  5. Gary Bohannon

    Gary Bohannon Well-Known Member

    Stage II Yes, But Q-jet?

    Stage II package included the Edelbrock B4B, Holley 850, headers, and heads with improved exhaust flow. WOW. Not sure about open air cleaner.

    The q-jet and iron intake and iron exhausts are hurting volumetric efficiency comming in and going out.

    A full factory correct Stage II package would add 100 plus HP, yea?
     
  6. benderbrew

    benderbrew Well-Known Member

    I head 60 HP but who knows.....
     
  7. BrunoD

    BrunoD Looking for Fast Eddie

    Gs/Hemy shootout

    I talked to Greg after he won the F.A.S.T. shotout in E-tonw.He did not go into details,but I undestood that it would have been too costly for anybody to prepare a car to run for one event.I think that JR did an outstaing job with the time he had and money that it cost him.I would propose the next time maybe we should all chip in and help those guy's out.Watching and commenting after it's done it's easy,getting involved is the hard part.Love that car JR.BrunoD.
     
  8. Mr Big

    Mr Big Silver Level contributor

    I may be wrong but I believe the "actual" head and block castings used by the Dudek Hemi are of recent vintage and came across the parts counter...not from under the hood of some forlorn Mopar. (kinda like the Stage 2 Buick heads were offered back in the day)

    If only Buick would have installed them on the line...Nahhh then we wouldn't have anything to bench race about. :laugh:
     
  9. PPPJJJFFF

    PPPJJJFFF Well-Known Member

    I think your right Glen. :TU:

    Patrick
     
  10. Jim Rodgers

    Jim Rodgers Well-Known Member

    Thanks Bruno! I very much appreciate it. Compliments are what makes it worthwhile to me anyways. :)

    ITS NOT TOO LATE. ALL DONATIONS WILL BE ACCEPTED!

    :laugh:
     
  11. Nicholas Sloop

    Nicholas Sloop '08 GS Nats BSA runner up

    How about I just buy you a beverage in BG! :beer :laugh:
     
  12. Beamer

    Beamer Suncoupes Rule !!!

    I gave at the office... LOL Jim


    Let me know when we are able to get out and do some tuning on that beast. I would like to be involved and help some more.


    Mike
     
  13. Jim Rodgers

    Jim Rodgers Well-Known Member

    Or 2.

    If you stay where you usually do, I will meet up with you in the parking lot one night for a "beverage" and some benchracing. Like every year. :laugh:
     
  14. Jim Rodgers

    Jim Rodgers Well-Known Member

    I had lunch with Jack today. He starts tuning in Feb. He said we are welcome to run all day, every day he has the track, free of charge. :TU:
     
  15. Jim Rodgers

    Jim Rodgers Well-Known Member

    Hey LJ,

    I came thru Bruns about 12 last night. The fox is in the henhouse! :laugh: Started to drop in on you and the wife, but thought better of it. :laugh:

    How about my "blue screen of death"? :Dou:
     
  16. Nicholas Sloop

    Nicholas Sloop '08 GS Nats BSA runner up

    Of course. And thanks for the reminder--I guess it's time to make some reservations!
     
  17. 69cloner

    69cloner MoparKilluh

    but whatabout bob? lol :pp
     
  18. ToddsGS

    ToddsGS Founders Club Member

    Jim,

    Your motor made some impressive numbers on the dyno!

    One question for you, was the motor dynoed with headers or your manifolds ?

    Thanks
     
  19. Jim Rodgers

    Jim Rodgers Well-Known Member

    Thanks.

    Both. The manifolds cost exactly 34 horsepower with this combo compared to headers. A new converter is on the way and should pick it up to where it should be.
     
  20. ToddsGS

    ToddsGS Founders Club Member


    Thanks Jim.

    My current project will be similar to yours. The car is apart and waiting for a spot at Autokraft for some fresh paint. I'm doing a full frame off so it will probably be a good year before its completed but work has already begun. If all goes as planned we should be easily in the 10's with Manifolds and a fairly stock 3,900 lb "appearance".

    I'm anxious to hear how your car performs this summer so keep us posted! It's a beautiful car!
     
    Last edited: May 4, 2007

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