Big Chief heads for big block Buick

So,I miss spoke ha? Well maybe we should go back and read a little . Ihave nothing against you, but maybe reshould kid our self when a ls engine is seating in a buick and you think that's buick engine? Really? every manufacture has up graded except buick! now get over it that technology has finally has caught up buick and your scared you might get beat by a heavier car with a smaller cid without a supetcharger. sorry life sucks. I all about brute power of any means of getting there. like I said before like The dart big chiefs really look like chevy heads? not! at least the heads mike is working on can get recognition. of being the late experimental buick heads. again I do like you and this is not for people that want to be looking stock. you have a choice please don't screw this up for the people that want to fly with being light weight or going full drag. this heads will put buick on the map. Gary

 

But you are talking about a Skyhawk arnt you. Hey was that you in the Kenne Bell catalog lifting the tires . Or are you the Ken in the article back in 95 porting cylnder heads and the Wildcat intake? Pic of a guy porting some BBB heads at a valve grinding bench looks like , long hair.

 

Ken, do you realize that I never had any class room experience regarding cylinder head theory ?all my knowledge came from some of the best cylinder head developers in the world! Just think now, Darin Morgan of Reher-Morrison,Sonny Leonard of Sonny's racing engines and other very ruptable cylinder developers gave me information I needed to even think about me drawing the pictures i did. Like I said before these heads are not full race heads they are for people that want to go faster. Oh by the way Warren Johnsons hands are tied because of the nhra rules it was not his fault, that he could not use a better head. chevy's are limited to DRCE3 cylinder head design but, anyone can do the port work. Look at last night, erica enders lost but set a best elasp time and mph of any car before and those heads were done by CFE racing cylinder heads out of Michigan. All this heads that are being made is for the individual.that what's to go fast and don't care on what it looks like. ken your car is fast, but look at what is making it fast! It sure is not the buick supercharger, buick never made a supercharger. besides nitromethane and alcohol is a big boost in any car period. yes I know this because i use to by use oil from top fuel boys and use it in my engines that had a pvc ran to the intake rt under the carb spacer. yes the windage causes the nitromathane to seperate from the oil and be suck in through the intake to really wake up a engine. your talking over 150 more horsepower by doing this and I and nitrous oxide on top to really wake that engine up. I know what works and what don't. I have done enough engine work and machining to know,so please don't think for one second I don't know what I'm doing. It's my duty to extract every once of power a bbb can make and that means doing other cylinder heads that bolt on to standard block, not some billet block that don't represent nothing at all. Sincerely Gary

 

Just so everyone knows a lot of my comments are" tongue in cheek" I have no axe to grind. I just happen to be building a billet head for the BBB to compete in the 21st century at any level that allows billet heads. I hope 20 Buick guys make heads.

 

Ken, I have nothing against you. Are you welling to make any type of Buick cylinder head if someone wants you to make a one off set ? What program are you working off of or should I say pattern? Allen Johnson does have some impressive cylinder heads for nitro class but don't think that any of those heads will work on a naturally aspirated engine,I have talk to many people that have tried that and it was a big mistake. Here is my question to you.as a professional , How long does it take you to come up with asingle cylinder meaning one intake port and one exhaust port of the cylinder head you are going to make for a individual ?The reason I ask is most head designers. take almost six months and sometimes way longer . I happy you are stepping up to develop new cylinder heads , just make sure you don't get tangled in the cfm number matrix. it doesn't work out that away.. I pretty much sure you know that by now though .

 

im not saying dont build the cyclinder heads, Im saying if I ever put those heads on my car I would no longer call it the worlds fastest BUICK I would just say it is a 91 regal with a 529cid big block. there are guys building 700 in tall deck raised 54mm cam motors that literally not a single buick part will bolt on and they are still calling them buick motors. "really" and just for the record I am not scared of ANY car with a buick motor in it Idont care what head is on it..

 

Wondering how many dimensions, parts and material changes you can make that were not made at the factory with cylinder blocks, heads or any other part before you can no longer call it a BUICK! I would like an exact number so I do not surpass the required changes as I still want to call my motor a Buick. Does a F3R139 pro charger disqualify me.

 

I think you guys need to read the fine print. TA isn't officially liscenced by gm and can't legally call anything he sells buick. The block, the heads....NOT a buick! You haven't wondered why all the valve cover on his website have the "buick" blurred out but they say buick on them when they get to your door? So really you have a TA block absolutely nothing buick about any of it. Besides it's an air pump it doesn't know what it is, it knows parts registry and cylinder heads that move air. That's it. You want it to "look" like a buick then make a valve cover that says buick and put it on a big chevy and 99.99% of people wouldn't notice.

 

Man that's putting it kindly! To add to that .... Aside from Mike and Ken I don't know of anyone else who is actually doing anything other than drawing, discussing theories and big name dropping. I have been following this thread because I want to see our v8's go faster than ever. As far as I know Rod is on top right now. I respect his opinion as well as a few others on here because they make big power and go fast! Perhaps folks who post their opinion can also produce a time slip or a dyno sheet to help people like me know who to take seriously. For the record, my car isn't one of the fast ones....... But it has been seen at the track.
Dave

 

Now this is what the race section is about. Rod just got more respect from me than he already did. Blower or not he has proven the himself in the buick community. All that N/A is cool but stick a blower, nitrous , or turbo and lets run the numbers. I dont care

 

Sad but true!

A friend of mine used to race a '72 GS at the local track, when people would ask what kind of engine it was he told them he had Buick heads on a BB chevy! :Brow:



A big block made with all TA parts is still more Buick than an LS motor will ever be.

 

been following this thread, ken's half is good, the other half totally useless.
I race a front engine dragster with a 350 and a blower on it. since nobody makes intakes for the 350, I make my own. I don't babble about what somebody else does, I go out and do it.

"analysis paralysis"; all talk,no action

 

I like to know, does your engine have raised runner intake ports? Is your heads Stage 3 heads? If they are any of thee I have amentioned ,then you can not, let me repeat that for you, you can not call it Stock nor close to stock. When TA changed the port geometry by a fraction of on inch
, it was no longer a FACTORY PERIOD. That's why they call it after market. Some people need to realize something, GM will never be like it was in the dat like Buick is now and for ever. Once GM changed from its old design to the new design it change GM forever. I on the other hand is for power and don't care what anyone thinks,damn only if anyone knew what I do about Fords Cylinder head design's in NHRA you would think twice about me. Does anyone know Darin Morgan was working on two different sets of cylinder heads for Ford? Yes I did, I follow along with Darin as he was working on that project. Ford pulled the projects because someone redesigned the semi-hemi head and ran with it.Now here the kicker, remember when someone was typing about Warren Johnson's best heads,well Darin did two different designs and one did represent. a DRCE3 Chevrolet head design and produced more power then the hemi head, now that's a slap in Fords face. please don't let this be a slap in your face. All of TA's products are not factory. Any appears stock looking. So your engine in your picture is aftermarket and no where near factory. Here is something for you, what do you call the all billet engine Mike Moran built? It doesn't represent. any manufacture periodBut it is the worlds fastest door slamer and it only done by Moran motorsports. we all have to get over our selves and sercome to the realization that the current heads are out dated and if you want to go faster you must either drop weight or find a better way to make the BUICK breath better and I see you are not dropping weight.

 

I'm thinking you never meet or heard Marcella's Manifolds? Get a hold of him, you'll never regret it.

 

Really? What all the other people that went under? They never helped keep the flame lit? Besides if Ta did not sell any of its other products did you ever think Mike might be out too? Mike is a great man and needed afire lit under his butt. I represented he a darwing before anyone came to he about doing a another cylinder head. I'll do anything to keep TA in Business, I even offord to go to school on my dime at Darins classes and School of S.A.M. (School of Automotive Machist) and come work for him as a cylinder designer! So what are you doing to help? I still plan on doing above because I'm in love with Buick and I know a ton of people to get things done. I like challenges and that is what drives me so much. Not only I like doing engine parts, I also like looking at race cars and seeing where i can make it safer or improve on it in any way.

 

"Even a woman can see it makes sense"???? You must be single. And you obviously don't know the women that I'll bet most of the others on here know. Or the women on this site. Prepare for a deserved bashing from them.
Yes, Chevy engines are cheaper. As are Fords. We have both. I race a Ford and a Buick. Building a '70 Camaro. So we are not prejudiced. Why our Buicks are Buick powered is because we like Buick engines. That's why the rest of the guys/gals are on here. I, for one, will not sell-out.

BTW I know where there is a wrecked Prius that maybe you can harvest the drivetrain from. If you really want to run cheap. LOL.