All I Want For Christmas Is My Bulldog Block!!!!!!!!

Discussion in 'Race 400/430/455' started by GS Kubisch, Dec 24, 2005.

  1. blown455

    blown455 Pit crew

    Rod has talked to Mike about this in great depth the past few weeks. Mike is ready to do this. He doesn't want to waste his time if no one is going to be interested in it. Like us a lot of you are fed up with Bulldog, and you have money wrapped up into this project. If he can get 25 guys to commit and back him 100% on this he will worry about coming up with the money himself. He understands that a lot of you guys paid in full for this Bulldog block and can't come up with more money for another block. He is not trying to put Dick out of buisness, as said before he has wanted to do this block for a really long time. Rod has told Mike to put him down for one!
     
  2. D-Con

    D-Con Kills Rats and Mice

    Let's not forget that way back in the 90's Mike's desire to do this was published in the GSX'tra. He told me over the phon then it was a long way off, but he would do it, "if I won the lottery."

    Bradshaw has had more than his chance at this point. If he loses anything it's his own darned fault. Building new heads, casting 2 blocks, and other projects while all these paid-up customers are on the hook and way, way behind schedule.
     
  3. stagetwo65

    stagetwo65 Wheelie King

    I don't question Mike's ability or commitment to Buick performance. I've also known him a long time, almost twenty years in fact. Or, as Mike likes to say, since I was skinny. I am questioning Mike's timing. He threw a post up on the board about building an aluminum block right after Bulldog announced their block a couple of years ago. Mike should have been the one to build an aftermarket block all along, and I told him so on a number of occasions. But to make an announcement like this at this point in time is not the least bit productive. If everyone pulls out of the Bulldog block right now, the Bulldog block goes up in smoke and a T/A block, if Mike actually builds one, wouldn't be in our hands for another couple of years. I still think Mike is trying to stick it to Bradshaw by bringing this up at this point in time.
     
  4. tom Hearsey

    tom Hearsey Well-Known Member

    according to The GS extra Edlebrock is looing seriously at BBB heads. Is this too not counter productive. Or is it just some good old Noth American competition?
     
  5. alan

    alan High-tech Dinosaur

    I stepped up because Dick Bradshaw (through Jim Burek) was willing to do something that everyone said was a money losing venture. If Mike had decided to produce a block first, I would had stepped forward. Heck, if FORD had decided to produce a Buick block, I'd have put in for one! :eek2:

    If the bulldog block falls through, then I'll put in for a TA block. If the TA block doesn't happen then I guess I'll build a serious band-aid motor and see what happens! :Dou:
     
  6. buicksstage1

    buicksstage1 Well-Known Member

    Cheque is in the mail

    Doug, I was ready to buy two of Bradshaws blocks and sign up for a distributorship, each time I talk to Dick he told me the block would be out in a couple of weeks, each time he told me this I was ready to send my money but being that I've been screwed before on car parts I kept telling myself wait and see if the block comes out. Each time it never happened. It reaches a point that a person gets strung out for so long, you have to question your better judgement. I want an after market block as bad as anyone else here. I will not send my money to someone that does not have a product. I'm not speaking for Mike here, but just how long should Mike sit back and watch before he can move on with his business? This deal should have been done a long time ago. You cannot blame Mike for wanting to move forward with his company and build a V8 block.Dick has cried wolf too many times, there has been very little truth spoken why should me or anyone else believe him? Sorry but if Mike gets the 25 people he needs, I guarentee there will be NO smoke and mirrors.........Chris
     
  7. stagetwo65

    stagetwo65 Wheelie King

    A) As far as the Edelbrock heads go, it'll never happen.
    B) I said I only question Mike's timing. I know what he's doing and why he's doing it. He knows damn well that if the Bulldog block comes out he'll have no market for his block. Especially if he's going to do it in aluminum. I changed my order with the Bulldog block to aluminum when I heard it was going to be available. I'd have been HAPPY to give Mike my money if he'd stepped up.
    C) He built V-6 blocks first because there is very little money to be made with an alumnium V-8 block. Not enough demand, plus BB Buick guys are notoriously cheap!
    D) If this is about competition, why did Mike try to become the ONLY distributor of Bulldog blocks? Trust me, I see Mike's agenda coming from a mile away. If he succeeds in crushing Bradshaw, then I'll have no choice but to hop on Mike's bandwagon. For now, I'll stick to the one I'm waiting for. Mike's had plenty of time before now to get his a$$ going on this project, and he knows it. I just about begged him to do this project two years ago. Why now?
     
  8. JEFF STRUBE

    JEFF STRUBE Well-Known Member

    These is still a Pissing Match. Every buddy in the Vendor world of Buicks talk's about each other. I do not care Hu builds a Block as long as it is a Quality Piece. TA Bulldog Back and fourth Someone Build the Dam thing. I think when TA Performance new about someone else like Bulldog was going to Build a Buick Block they should have Jumped on it and started Building them they could have had the Market Fluided with them by now. Let's Face it the Bulldog block has been going on for 3 + year's. TA Performance could of had the Market Fluided and cornered even more . I am in no way shape or form Beating on TA Performance. I am just stating Fact's. TA Performance stepped up to build the Stage 2 heads that was a grate movie forward in Buick Performance the the Stage 3 heads then the Stage 4s then the SP2 the Tall port intake for the Stage 3,4 heads. Let me not forget the TE Stage 2's the SP1 intake, The SE Stage 1 heads TE Stage 1 heads. The Roller Cam the Block Girdle the list goes on and on.

    That's you i don't no you they Didn't step up First to do a Block. Buick people have been faithful Customer's for year's. You look at BBB Motor's out there there are alot of Aluminum TA heads on Motor's. I do wish when i talked to some one there to order or find out about a Product they where more Cheerful and alot more Friendlyer. I guess that is just how some people are

    I am tired of the Pissing Matches in the Vendor's World.

    Everyone that want's to Build a block. Let's see them
     
  9. buick535

    buick535 Well-Known Member



    Well put Doug. You were thin once? :grin: Jim Burek
     
  10. Jim Weise

    Jim Weise EFI/DIS 482

    Come on Doug,

    You have known for years that Mike wants to do a block. You also know that him doing or not doing one has nothing to do with any other vendor.

    He wants to do one as a personal accomplishment for TA Performance, and he will or will not do one soley based on the proper timing for his company and his family, regardless of who is or is not doing another block. Three years ago, he thought that he had to do one then because of Bradshaw's interest, and if he wanted that market, he had to act. The timing then was bad for TA, and the decision was made to not press the issue, and to see if another vendor could step up and fill the need.

    When Bulldog's project was in it's infancy, Bradsaw called TA and spoke with Mike, to get techinical input on Bulldog's proposed project, in relation to extra headbolts and how they could possibly work with TA Performance Cylinder heads. Mike proposed to Dick at that time that if TA were to buy X number of blocks (25?) if he could be an exclusive vendor, and offer his expertise in the further development of this block. This was long before anything was ever produced, and the project was just talk, and it was just a passing comment more than anything. Bradshaw was not interested in this, and that was the end of it.

    Mike stepped back away from the whole deal, and let it pass. The only thing that he has done even remotely close to any type of involvment, was making that one-off 4 bolt block for Rod Hendrickson, so Rod did not have to sit the season out waiting for a block that was promised to him over and over.

    Bradshaw went his own way, and I am certain that TA is very glad they did not hook up with him, considering how this has gone down.

    Because of the success of the V-6 block, a project that was initiated as a way to partially fund the V-8 block development, because Mike has always had the burning desire to do the V-8 block, and because the timing for TA is better now than it was 3 years ago, he is seriously talking about doing it now. He's working on how to put the funding in place, and working the numbers to see if TA can do this without deposits, and that question is not quite resolved as of yet. But I can tell you that if he can, he certainly does not want anyone's money until he has a product to sell them. Although as I understand it, his wife and partner Sherri is interested in seeing concrete interest in this project, in the form of deposits.

    Any other presentation of "facts" by anyone who doesn't look like Mike Tomaszewski is nothing more than a "Jerry Springerish" attempt to slander the good name and business practices of TA Performance.

    Give it a rest.

    And it is my feeling that quite the opposite of your fears will be the reality. If in fact TA does commit to this block, your vendor of choice may actually finish his 3 year old project, if he is capable. If the product is good, and your faith in this vendor is what it should be, then I can't see how TA doing or not doing a block would concern you in the least bit.

    Lots of "IFs" in that statement.

    But the reality is that due to broken promise after broken promise, you and a whole lot of other guys who plunked down your hard earned cash are now getting worried.

    And if anything at all comes from this thread, I am sure that the midnight oil is burning in the bulldog camp, as I am aware that there is at least one individual who has set a concrete deadline on getting his product from them, or getting his money back.

    JW
     
  11. Staged70Lark

    Staged70Lark Well-Known Member

    Jim,

    I hope T/A or .. Bulldog or... Ebrock... someone makes and finishes a block!!!


    I am wayyyyyy to lazy to go back do a search but if my memory is correct.... about 3 years ago T/A came out and said they were going to produce a new V8 aluminum block. Since then we have heard nothing from Mike about the new block.

    This may be the reason Doug feels the way he does??????

    I personally dont understand why Mike or Bradshaw cant come on here and talk for themselves???????? :Do No:

    For me its a bit irritating to hear from the T/A and Bdog spokespeople!!!

    I really hope you guys who want a block sooooo bad do get something good to work with and make us fellow Buick fans proud!


    Later
     
  12. buick535

    buick535 Well-Known Member

    When Bulldog's project was in it's infancy, Bradsaw called TA and spoke with Mike, to get techinical input on Bulldog's proposed project, in relation to extra headbolts and how they could possibly work with TA Performance Cylinder heads. Mike proposed to Dick at that time that if TA were to buy X number of blocks (25?) if he could be an exclusive vendor, and offer his expertise in the further development of this block. This was long before anything was ever produced, and the project was just talk, and it was just a passing comment more than anything. Bradshaw was not interested in this, and that was the end of it.





    Get the facts and dates correct here. This conversation was not way back in the infancy of the project. It was in 2005.

    Enough of this nonsense. What we need now is Dart or someone to also step up and build us a block. Does'nt matter to me, the more the merrier I say.
    P.S. the kiss my a&% stuff, How imature is that? (referencing the TA's new block thread) Are we regressing back to the sand box here? Come on man, I thougt there was not supposed to be that kind of stuff on the board, or not just from other people? You do set a fine high standard for the rest of us there Jimbo W.
    I must say I am not surprised though. Jim Burek
     
  13. evil16v

    evil16v Midwest Buick Mafia



    I am with ya on that. I'm also too lazy to look back through :grin: but i believe i have alluded to that(Bradshaw posting for himself with an expanation) earlier in this tread or another. This would eliminate all doubt, as to what the deal is.

    I have delt with vendors(mike t and jim b.) on both ends of this and think they are both great. They have done a hell of a lot for the buick community. I would like to see them continue to succeed with their business's.

    For the end of the Buick community to grow, there will have to be a bottom end offered that can support the now numurous amount of choices of induction pieces already produced for these engines. A block that can support power levels well above what the stock was designed for. This hobby is just like a business. A growing business is easier to deal with, than a stagnant(sp?) one. The block is the next logical step for the buick racing community.

    IF Edelbrock is stepping in on doing heads, that is great. That just makes more market for the block and other associated parts that vendors already make.
     
  14. 10inchbuick

    10inchbuick Midwest Buick Mafia

    Well this whole thing has turned into a cluster F@$k.
    If they fail at producing a block atleast they tried instead of sitting behind a keyboard and down playing the whole deal.I would rather try and fail than sit back and do nothing.What have the people bashing the block done to help have one built?



    Nothing!
     
  15. blown455

    blown455 Pit crew

    Wow! Has anyone else noticed that it took the mentioning of TA THINKING about building a block to bring JB out of the wood work on this thread. It started back at Christmas and it's been going a whole month without hearing "It will start shipping next month." Then again maybe I'm the only one that caught that. Not to take jabs at you Jim B. but you seem to be our only source of info for this Bulldog block,,, and again we are left in the dark. Now were all supposed to be happy and look forward to Super Sunday to have NOTHING again show up on our door step.

    I want to point out that Mike has not officially mentioned he will be coming out with this block. It is all just in discussion right now. Everyone one knows as JW mentioned this has always been a dream of Mike's to come out with this block. Mike has had lots of guys call him about building this block because they are sick of hearing "NEXT MONTH!!" Or as it was put this last time "SUPER SUNDAY" Mike has no other motives as some would like to think.

    I would like to know this.... If the block is truly three weeks away from delivery. WHY would you be soo worked up and pi$$ed off about Mike TALKING about coming out with a block???? It would be at least a year before his was to come out and Bulldogs is done ... What's the threat???
     
  16. blown455

    blown455 Pit crew

    Well,,,, most of the ones ticked off are the ones that have money on the line, which has helped most of all.
     
  17. 10inchbuick

    10inchbuick Midwest Buick Mafia

    I'm Paid In Full
     
  18. RACEBUICKS

    RACEBUICKS Midwest Buick Mafia


    me too!!
     
  19. alan

    alan High-tech Dinosaur

    Me three!
     
  20. 10inchbuick

    10inchbuick Midwest Buick Mafia

    I must say one thing my previous post was directed at those who have not put a dime into this block but yet must open their mouths.Some of these people have never had anything good to say about and have wanted it to fail from the begining.

    It sucks to have money invested and nothing to show for it.There is no truely secure investment there is always a chance to loose your money.It's up to you to decide if it's something worth risking your dime on.At the time there was nobody else stepping to the plate to build us a block so I figured it was worth a shot as did many others.
     

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