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Who won’t get THE shot?

Discussion in 'The Bench' started by copperheadgs1, Dec 29, 2020.

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Guy Parquette Platinum Level Contributor

It is a no for me. If I get the China Covid, I'll just take some Clorox... done deal.
Please don't take this serious, it's a joke. Just saying

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Guy Parquette, Dec 30, 2020

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12lives Control the controllable, let the rest go

7 pages and no flame out yet - wow!

12lives, Dec 30, 2020

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LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member

12lives said: ↑

7 pages and no flame out yet - wow!
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If you keep politics out of the conversation, it can be done. We had annual flu shot threads that hung in there. Just for the record, I intend to get the vaccine as soon as it is available to me. If people refusing to get the vaccine gets it to me faster, I am OK with that. Nobody is forcing anyone to take the shot, although it might be a requirement for employment or schooling down the road, not sure how that will work out.

LARRY70GS, Dec 30, 2020

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12lives Control the controllable, let the rest go

ditto!

12lives, Dec 30, 2020

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GKMoz Gary / Moz

GKMoz, Dec 30, 2020

#125

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GKMoz Gary / Moz

If you are forced by an employer or by store regs? You are being forced to have the shot!
Just like not being forced to wear masks turned into no mask no enter!
Or back in the old days, no shirt no shoes no service!
Like term desensitizing we didn't even realize back then?

Certificate Of Vaccination I.D. ?

GKMoz, Dec 30, 2020

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436'd Skylark Sweet Fancy Moses!!!!!

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The irony.

436'd Skylark, Dec 30, 2020

#127
gsfred Founders Club Member

GKMoz said: ↑

If you are forced by an employer or by store regs? You are being forced to have the shot!
Just like not being forced to wear masks turned into no mask no enter!
Or back in the old days, no shirt no shoes no service!
Like term desensitizing we didn't even realize back then?

Certificate Of Vaccination I.D. ?
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Who knows, May need the certificate and your ID to travel on a plane

gsfred, Dec 30, 2020

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Max Damage I'm working on it!

docgsx said: ↑

yeah, OK, you go first.

“If you do get shingles even though you have been vaccinated, ZOSTAVAX may help prevent the nerve pain that can follow shingles in some people. ZOSTAVAX does not protect everyone, so some people who get the vaccine may still get shingles.
ZOSTAVAX cannot be used to treat shingles, or the nerve pain that may follow shingles, once you have it.”

Your response reflects that of someone who doesn’t understand immunity.
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Immunity is not simple. People who experience shingles have already had chickenpox when younger. That would suggest they are "immune". Once infected, the virus continues to live in your nervous system until you die.

Singles "outbreaks" are unpredictable, painful and dangerous (since the virus is in your nerves, some people go blind from sores appearing on their retina.)

The vaccine you refer to is old and deprecated (ie not used anymore).

Current vaccine info here:
https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vpd/shingles/public/shingrix/index.html

Max Damage, Dec 30, 2020

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telriv Founders Club Member

I don't know, maybe I'm just lucky. At 74+ years, & hopefully counting, I have diabetis, BUT NOT overweight, I too have had shingles & didn't know what it was until I went to see the doctor & he confirmed that I had it. Wanted to give me a shot, BUT I refused. Was it painful, YES, did it wear me down, another YES. As far as Covid I WON'T be getting a shot either as I have NEVER had a flu shot.
Like I said, "maybe I've been lucky". MANY have told me it's a virus & it spreads by touchng yourself with your hands in various places/ways, BUT even though it's a virus it's still a bacteria & bacteria CAN'T servive in grease, which my hands usually are. Is the grease protecting me, I don't know, BUT I will keep on beliveing it is, as many of us here are in the same situation as far as grease is concerned.
AS of the moment I have been in close contact with others who have had it. AGAIN, maybe I'm just lucky. IF I do contact this virus MAYBE I will get vacinated, maybe not.
Just my thoughts on the subject.
Continue on.

Tom T.

telriv, Dec 30, 2020

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Max Damage I'm working on it!

telriv said: ↑

I don't know, maybe I'm just lucky. At 74+ years, & hopefully counting, I have diabetis, BUT NOT overweight, I too have had shingles & didn't know what it was until I went to see the doctor & he confirmed that I had it. Wanted to give me a shot, BUT I refused. Was it painful, YES, did it wear me down, another YES. As far as Covid I WON'T be getting a shot either as I have NEVER had a flu shot.
Like I said, "maybe I've been lucky". MANY have told me it's a virus & it spreads by touchng yourself with your hands in various places/ways, BUT even though it's a virus it's still a bacteria & bacteria CAN'T servive in grease, which my hands usually are. Is the grease protecting me, I don't know, BUT I will keep on beliveing it is, as many of us here are in the same situation as far as grease is concerned.
AS of the moment I have been in close contact with others who have had it. AGAIN, maybe I'm just lucky. IF I do contact this virus MAYBE I will get vacinated, maybe not.
Just my thoughts on the subject.
Continue on.

Tom T.
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Many people get Covid and either don't have major symptoms or only have minor issues. Others Die.

It's not a bacteria.

Hopefully, you remain well and keep the grease on your hands for many years to come.

Max Damage, Dec 30, 2020

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LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member

What is the difference between a bacteria and a virus?
Bacteria are single-celled, living organisms. They have a cell wall and all the components necessary to survive and reproduce, although some may derive energy from other sources. Viruses are not considered to be “living” because they require a host cell to survive long-term, for energy, and to reproduce. They survive and reproduce by “hijacking” a host cell, and using its ribosomes to make new viral proteins.

LARRY70GS, Dec 30, 2020

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GSX 554 Gold Level Contributor

LARRY70GS said: ↑

What is the difference between a bacteria and a virus?
Bacteria are single-celled, living organisms. They have a cell wall and all the components necessary to survive and reproduce, although some may derive energy from other sources. Viruses are not considered to be “living” because they require a host cell to survive long-term, for energy, and to reproduce. They survive and reproduce by “hijacking” a host cell, and using its ribosomes to make new viral proteins.
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Larry : That's Science . But Science was questioned a few pages back . Many don't believe in it .

GSX 554, Dec 30, 2020

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LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member

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Let me play Devil's advocate here. What if she is swimming towards a crowded beach, and she is 20 yards from shore, and said shore is crowded with mask less people who are in the midst of an argument, screaming at each other. Let's further say she lives in an area that has a 50% positivity rate, and she has several comorbidities. What do you think, honestly, not so stupid? "Judge not, lest ye be judged" Matthew 7:1-3?

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LARRY70GS, Dec 30, 2020

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LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member

gsx455-4ever said: ↑

Larry : That's Science . But Science was questioned a few pages back . Many don't believe in it .
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Agree 100% Lou, it's a problem for sure.

LARRY70GS, Dec 30, 2020

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copperheadgs1 copperheadgs1

2manybuicks said: ↑

Thst is the kind of utterly unscientific distortion that simply sows mistrust and doubt amongst those who don't know better.

A more accurate discussion of true facts follows.

Weren’t the death rates from these diseases dropping before vaccines came along?
One of the things you may have heard is that the death rates from vaccine preventable illnesses were declining before vaccines came along.

In fact that is true but that is only half the story. Consider polio, a virus that can cause widespread paralysis. As medical interventions improved doctors were able to keep people alive until the virus had run it’s course, through the use of technologies such as iron lungs.

This does not mean the number of people getting polio was decreasing, or that the person did not suffer.

It was not until a polio vaccine was developed and in widespread use that the death rates (the mortality) AND the rates of disease (incidence) declined.

Before 1960 the number of people dying decreased as standards of living and health care improved. But mortality only measures people dying. The number of people getting sick with the disease (the incidence) did not change until vaccines came along. These graphs illustrate this point for measles.

To determine if a vaccine works look at the incidence of disease, not the mortality. Here are some more examples.

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That’s a lot of work to convince no one.

copperheadgs1, Dec 30, 2020

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Quick Buick Arlington Wa

Im still with the good old,,,
You are what you eat,,, A apple a day keeps the doctor away. That does not mean using your Apple iPhone....

Quick Buick, Dec 30, 2020

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IlliniGSX GSX #401

I got mine today, second one in 4 weeks. I am immune compromised so surviving Covid is not a good bet. Slightly sore arm nothing like the senior flu shot.

IlliniGSX, Dec 30, 2020

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rkammer Gold Level Contributor

copperheadgs1 said: ↑

That’s a lot of work to convince no one.
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Yes, but he spent some time to state facts. Let's hear some of the naysayers state some facts to go along with their opinions as to why it's not a good idea to get vaccinated. I'll have diet coke with my popcorn, please.

rkammer, Dec 30, 2020

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Fox's Den 355Xrs

I never got the chicken pox so I got a vaccine a few years ago. But I did get both kinds of measles and the mumps all before I was 7 years old.

Did anybody get a cold or the flu this year? So far nothing for me

Fox's Den, Dec 30, 2020

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