Uhhh!, Timing cover leak.

Discussion in 'Street/strip 400/430/455' started by LARRY70GS, Aug 30, 2020.

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What do you use on the Timing Cover Gasket

  1. RTV

    21 vote(s)
    48.8%
  2. Spray Tack or copper coat

    13 vote(s)
    30.2%
  3. Gasgacinch

    5 vote(s)
    11.6%
  4. Other

    8 vote(s)
    18.6%
Multiple votes are allowed.
  1. 436'd Skylark

    436'd Skylark Sweet Fancy Moses!!!!!

    I've cam swapped or pulled the cover for other reasons many, many times and never repacked the pump without issue. I wouldn't bother. If your oil pressure hasn't had a significant change then I would leave it alone for sure. Eight years is nothing, especially with a weekend warrior.
     
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  2. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member

    Thanks Joe,
    I figure the gears will be wet at the very least, and I have a good chance that it will prime with a drill. I can also put the driver's side wheel up on a ramp and try and fill the filter as much as possible to quicken the process. I can also put some oil in through the sender hole easily.
     
  3. BQUICK

    BQUICK Gold Level Contributor

    I pump oil in the sender with an outboard motor primer bulb and hose stuck in a qt of oil. Oil pressure jumps right up when you start. As you know I'm not a fan of Vaseline.....
     
  4. 436'd Skylark

    436'd Skylark Sweet Fancy Moses!!!!!

    I would fill the filter and install it as the last step right before you turn the key. I'm sure you'll be changing the oil with this job anyway. You'll have enough crank time waiting for the carb to get gas and you'll probably have to turn the distributor a little to get it fired off. I wouldn't bother turning it with a drill.
     
  5. 1969RIVI

    1969RIVI Well-Known Member

    Well if you do order it and dont end up using it I'll buy it off you Larry :)
     
  6. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member

    Today's progress.

    TimingCover2.jpg
     
  7. Cutlass

    Cutlass Platinum Level Contributor

    Is it my eyes, or is the waterpump colored in a different red?
     
  8. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member

    It might be, when JW built the motor, I think I sent him a painted pump. It's either that or the shading, or dirt.
     
  9. Cutlass

    Cutlass Platinum Level Contributor

    well, now is a good opportunity to fix that (if you mind)
     
  10. 1969RIVI

    1969RIVI Well-Known Member

    Ahh man Larry stay focused and don't listen to the tiny Buick voices in your head (by that I mean this site) or you're gonna end up going down the rabbit hole on this one and the car will be in a zillion pieces for a concours resto :D:p:rolleyes:
     
  11. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member

    No worries, I decided that I might as well paint the parts of the motor that need it. The timing cover and water pump definitely need it.
     
  12. Mart

    Mart Gold level member

    And I see you still haven't tackled hooking up your A/C, now would be a good time.....:D
     
  13. 1969RIVI

    1969RIVI Well-Known Member

    ^^^See Larry this is how it starts^^^:p:D
     
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  14. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member

    I bought the compressor. Sill need the condenser, hoses, dryer and POA. Ahh, no, now would not be a good time.:):)
     
  15. TORQUED455

    TORQUED455 Well-Known Member

    I guess I didn’t realize that taking an oil pump apart was that hard?? Sheesh, easy-peasy and you can check some important stuff, but hey, it’s your time, your grade, your money! Petroleum jelly won’t bother anything. It melts very quickly. I have packed who knows how many pumps back in the day on 231’s, 350’s and 455’s. Never an issue. I do recall, however, trying to keep oil from drooling out trying to put the cover back on. If you use no sealer on the TC gasket, then it won’t be a problem, but you’ll likely be in the same boat again someday (split gasket). And keep in mind that JW has had his share of issues too..
     
  16. TORQUED455

    TORQUED455 Well-Known Member

    Larry, whatever way you go with the priming, since you have the priming tool, you should use it. Again, all this is JMO.
     
  17. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member

    Thanks Bob,
    I realize everyone has an opinion. I welcome them. I appreciate your advice always. Thanks again.
     
  18. Mart

    Mart Gold level member

    I like using a light spray of High Tack on both sides, to hold & keep TC gasket in place. I let it set up a bit before assembly.
    The important part is getting the cam end play set. It will change (tighten) when the long water pump thru bolts are torqued down, at least on a 350.
    I've always been able to prime pump using drill without petroleum jelly, with tight cover to gear clearances.... always more than one way to skin a cat.
    Worst part of the job is the slimey antifreeze. I hate that greazy crap.
     
  19. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member

    I have the gaskets, both Felpro, and the SCE coming on Thursday. Seems like the ones JW used are the thicker GM, so the SCE should be the ones. I'll know when I pull it off. The Felpros are blue and a dead give away. The piece that blew out looks black/gray, so it is probably GM. I'll be sure to torque the bolts to 29 ft lbs.
     
  20. Utah455

    Utah455 Platinum Level Contributor

    Where did you get the compressor? I need to get one but wasn’t sure which is correct (70GS455).

    Thanks,
    Nick
     

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