Uhhh!, Timing cover leak.

Discussion in 'Street/strip 400/430/455' started by LARRY70GS, Aug 30, 2020.

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What do you use on the Timing Cover Gasket

  1. RTV

    21 vote(s)
    48.8%
  2. Spray Tack or copper coat

    13 vote(s)
    30.2%
  3. Gasgacinch

    5 vote(s)
    11.6%
  4. Other

    8 vote(s)
    18.6%
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  1. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member

    Was at a cruise night on Friday. Car was running great. On my way home, I think I catch a whiff of burning coolant. Look at my floorboards, dry, temperature gauge right at 180 as usual. Get home, look underneath, coolant dripping very steadily on the passenger side. It's dark, I look to see where it's leaking. Definitely not the water pump, pulley isn't wobbling, no noise, weep hole dry. I put it in the garage and shut it down. Next morning, I look a little more carefully. I see it looks like it's coming out of the top of the timing cover. Unbolt the coil and move it out of the way. looks like the gasket split and pushed out, and it's seeping out of there.

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    I am tempted to drain the system, clean the area really well, and try and push some right stuff in there, but i know the cover needs to come off. Ordered gaskets. Thoughts?
     
  2. hugger

    hugger Well-Known Member

    I wouldn't even bother trying to seal it from the outside,..it will just travel to ends of the new seal and piss there,...may even have developed some corrosion in the sealing surface,..its a TA cover so maybe not,...but its been on there a while too,...
     
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  3. Aaron65

    Aaron65 Well-Known Member

    I wonder what pushed the gasket out like that. Whatever it was, you'll worry about it if you don't pull the cover and put a new gasket in. I think if it were mine, I'd replace the radiator cap to make sure the cooling system pressure is correct, or at least I'd rent one of those pressure testers to check the cap.
     
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  4. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member

    Yes, definitely replacing the radiator cap. It's a CARS reproduction, and it has been on there for awhile. I already started taking things apart. Weather looks crappy for the next 3 days. What do you guys use for thread sealer for the long bolts? How about resealing the front section of the pan? Weatherstrip cement, or right stuff, I have both?
     
  5. sriley531

    sriley531 Excommunicado

    Along the lines of "buy once, cry once", you know what you should do Larry.
     
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  6. johnriv67

    johnriv67 Well-Known Member

    I used a dab of RTV on the front section of the pan and it’s sealed fine for me
     
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  7. BQUICK

    BQUICK Gold Level Contributor

    Smear Right Stuff then re-torque intake
     
  8. hugger

    hugger Well-Known Member

    Only 3 of the 5 long bolts go into water,..but Ive just always used black permatex on all of them out of habit myself...the pan seal ..if the gasket stays in place just wipe it clean with alchohol or brake clean on a rag and smear some rtv on,..

    I'm sure the "RTV USE" Police will be along shortly,..but ive ALWAYS,..for years and years,..put a thin smear of black permatex on both sides of the gasket
     
  9. hugger

    hugger Well-Known Member

    Its very common and just what they do over time
     
  10. hugger

    hugger Well-Known Member

    just make sure you dry fit the cover and it "snaps" in place and doesn't rock,..ive seen a few that don't sit 100% flush and had to work with them a little,..being a TA cover im sure its fine tho

    Don't forget sealer on the pan bolts and the two short bolts behind balancer little under the head there as they will piss oil occasionally
     
  11. Oldskewl59

    Oldskewl59 Gold Level Contributor

    You wanted to freshen up EVERYTHING on the front of your engine anyway. Right?
     
  12. 436'd Skylark

    436'd Skylark Sweet Fancy Moses!!!!!

    Geez Larry, your inspiring me to pull my cover to fix a balancer leak. Maybe this winter.

    I use only a few dabs of rtv where the cover gasket meets the pan. I install the cover gasket clean and dry.
     
  13. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member

    I'm glad I bought that Dewalt impact gun.:):)
     
  14. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member

    I would have preferred to do this over the winter.:D
     
  15. 436'd Skylark

    436'd Skylark Sweet Fancy Moses!!!!!

  16. JoeBlog

    JoeBlog Platinum Level Contributor

    We’ve all been there; something like this happens and we think “what’s the easiest way to solve this?” But the perfectionist in us screams loudly: “do it right, do it once!” and we get out our tools. You’ll sleep better knowing that the work was done by an exacting mechanic with OCD tendencies.
     
  17. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member

  18. Cutlass

    Cutlass Platinum Level Contributor

    Larry is making the whole thing up, just to give us the feeling that there are Buick related issues, even he still has questions :)
     
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  19. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member

    I wish I was:) Even I have issues. Motor has been together for 8 years now. The only thing I have done to it is take the intake off to change the lifters, that's it. I suppose something happening was inevitable. It is a car after all, things break.:(
     
  20. BQUICK

    BQUICK Gold Level Contributor

    Have you ever re-torqued the intake Larry? Amazing how much they take after many heat cycles.....
    I had a whistling vacuum leak...torqued it while motor was running so I could hear the whistle stop.
     

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