Off on a 'Lark...

Discussion in 'The Bench' started by yachtsmanbill, Dec 23, 2018.

  1. 300sbb_overkill

    300sbb_overkill WWG1WGA. MAGA

    Hey Pat, nice job! That Bill sure sounds like a slave driver!:eek::D

    The first hood pic, are those pokadots on there some sort of reflection? They kind of look to uniform to be flaws?
     
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  2. Prairie Piston

    Prairie Piston Well-Known Member

    Looks great !! Moving right along.
     
  3. BBBPat

    BBBPat Well-Known Member

    Thanks for all the "LIKES" guys! Those dots DEREK, are screw holes for the louvers. They were pre-drilled and up against the hood insulation, so they managed to actually fill with the high build primer. I poked them clean yesterday for the BC to seal the edges so there less chance of bleed through from rust---my arch enemy!

    Changed the furnace filter just now; plugged solid so there was very little fan draft and the overheat safety popped yesterday. Also found a few light spots, so I feel vindicated mixing another small batch of blue. That Willy... he shouldve found them yesterday while I was laying on the floor doing the fender lips! In for some breakfast then back at it!!
     
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  4. BBBPat

    BBBPat Well-Known Member

    At least the big guy takes pictures! He's off at 0700 tomorrow for what he calls a "detail gun"(?). Something about a swivel cup so I can learn to paint overhead. Hope the stuff doesnt get in my hair! About those fender lips; those are worse than waxing mustache hairs LOL...

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  5. BBBPat

    BBBPat Well-Known Member

    TIMES UP! Going in for blood today. I had to buy a chinagun for doing detail stuff. Regular gravity feed HVLP guns dont spray overhead too well. This little guy with a .6mm nozzle worked most excellently.Got just about 3 full coats of blue on the entire project and today is the clear. Prayers requested (!). One dust coat (semi-wet) and a full wet coat...Easy peezy; chinamaneezy!

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  6. UticaGeoff

    UticaGeoff Well-Known Member

    Maybe it will be done in time for you both to attend the Tugboat Event in Waterford, NY????

    UticaGeoff
     
  7. BBBPat

    BBBPat Well-Known Member

    Yo Geoff...Thats a longggg stroll to make in a '64! Im gonna try and do the end of the Power Tour in Madison Wis. this year. Thats about 3 hours each way. Dont forget theres zero creature comforts in the old gal!
     
  8. Golden Oldie 65

    Golden Oldie 65 Well-Known Member

    We plan to do at least part of the Power Tour this year since it's fairly close. For sure the last day in Madison if nothing else. Not sure whether we'll drive the Buick or the El Camino.
     
  9. BBBPat

    BBBPat Well-Known Member

    Yeah, we were consider making the run from Champaign, Il. (I have a pal in Dwight for a pit stop) and finishing the ride to the Quad Cities area and up to Madison, but the logistics didnt work out. Mite be seeing ya in Madison!
     
  10. yachtsmanbill

    yachtsmanbill Well-Known Member

    Just an update... Spent sooo much time getting the base coat done so it was near perfect, that I felt it was ready for some clear. I managed to make a nice mess out of that with poor lighting and too much clear and a coolish (65F) shop temp. The instructions called for an application within 24 hours of the BC. Then a tack coat and after about a 15 minute flash time a full wet coat.

    The 24 hour window passed, so it was more like 36 hours. Rolled the dice and shot the clear. The first sticky coat didnt look right (sputtering) but went over it with the wet and it all flowed out really nice. It was going so nice that I decided to "lay it on" and the top of each fender (in the direct path of the gun) ran pretty bad. I let it go for two days to cure before attempting any repair.

    I got back on it and was sanding and back scraping the runs and cleaning with compressed air. I got into a corner and the clear lifted. Aw Heck! I chased it down the length of the rear quarter from the body line to the trunk gutter. Literally blew it off with just air. Without measuring the thickness of the clear, Id say it was laying on the body line at about 10-20 mils. The rest is history. Im going to re color the fender and re-clear that part.

    Several other substantial runs around the car needed sanding with 150 to make them flat. The whole car is now going to get wet sanded with 400 and after a few blue touch ups (very minor) will get a full fresh coat of clear. There was also some dust that found its way into the clear so the sanding doesnt kill the job but is one heck of a primer coat. I can also take care of some orange peel areas on the lower half of the body as well. All in a days work.

    At first it looked dramatic as BC/CC does, but the runs soon killed my joy. However, now I know what to expect. Gonna hang a visqueen booth and paint clean with a nice exhaust fan for the airborne junk. Lesson learned! ws

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  11. hugger

    hugger Well-Known Member

    Chances are you're not going to be able to put base over those areas where you sanded thru the base into the primer,.its going to bust the raw edge. You will need to spray some sealer over those areas to lock the edge down. 400 is to coarse to sand the base with 800 is what you need

    Wipe with alcohol b4 respraying it will help kill the static. A temp booth will be a waste of time of energy,.just open the garage door and set 2 18in floor fans under the door,.let them pull out the cloud,..keep a sprayer nearby to keep the floor damp

    Adjust the air psi , viscosity and your distance so that you can move at a brisk pace with the gun about 6in from the surface

    Start on the rear body panel and work your way to the front

    My approach on that body would be as follows in this order

    Rear body panel
    Rh 1/4 crossing into the door a good 8in working up to the center of deck up around back glass atch sails as go up,catch a good several inches into the roof for both
    Center of deck down LH 1/4
    Rh door up to center of roof overlap in 1/4 panel and fender 10in or so
    Lh center of roof overlap minimum of 10in here
    Down the lh door overlap into 1/4 and fender
    Hustle over to RH fender spray to just a few in over inti the door up to center of hood
    Beat it over to the lh fender and go from center if hood down the fender
     
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  12. yachtsmanbill

    yachtsmanbill Well-Known Member

    Thanks Ethan! I like your thinking on the re-sealing part. The only panel that was compromised was the passenger side rear. Everywhere else is intact. I guess Ill re-seal that upper 1/4; the trunk is good and the sail panel and door is good. The worst part is going to be correcting the orange peel way down loww...

    Followed through and got fresh sealer primer on the edge where the sand through occured. Looks much better! Gonna hit the primer tomorrow with either 600 or 800 and get some color back on it. Since that stuff dries so fast, I'm probably gonna get the rest wet sanded with 800. All the runs came out with 150/400 (!) with about 5-10% left for the 600/800. I just didnt want to spend "days" sanding runs out. A quickie wipe down with dewaxer didnt show any sand throughs except that rear quarter panel. Theres more than enough clear on the rest to get a decent 600/800 finish sand. ws z42.jpg

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  13. 65Larkin

    65Larkin Well-Known Member

    Ahoy mate welcome back from your hiatus
     
  14. yachtsmanbill

    yachtsmanbill Well-Known Member

    Thanks Gubnah! Getting ready for autumn down there pretty soon arent ya? Looking forward to finishing up for spring up here at 45 Deg. North. ws
     
  15. yachtsmanbill

    yachtsmanbill Well-Known Member

    So I got the whole car de-glazed with the 400. Front fender is with 400 and some dust spots done over with 600, just to show the difference. Im gonna finish up tomorrow with 600 or 800. That stuff goes right through the CC once the glaze is busted. The roof was the smoothest and the corner shot is just done with 600 on a wet sanding sponge on the way out the door. I think it will also take care of the dust mites on top as well.

    Ordered an extra quart of clear just in case. $30.00 for hazmat ground shipping for a quart of clear! Spending the next few days getting the shop in order. Right now it looks like a million chinamen with the colona vilus are rivving in there with no toyret papuh. :eek: ws

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  16. UticaGeoff

    UticaGeoff Well-Known Member

    Bill: I am impressed with your work. You should be proud of the car.

    UticaGeoff
     
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  17. Chi-Town67

    Chi-Town67 Gold Level Contributor

    Lookin' good Bill! That's really gonna pop once it's polished up.
     
  18. yachtsmanbill

    yachtsmanbill Well-Known Member

    DRAMATIC is the word we use, that is until you saw all the runs. Next time will be flawless. Now I have the hang of working with the stuff LOL... ws
     
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  19. yachtsmanbill

    yachtsmanbill Well-Known Member

    Rub-a-dub-tub... Im just about "sanded out". Went over the whole car and flattened all the runs out with 150, then broke the glaze with 220, roughed it in with 400, then a final with 600. All this with a 2x2" hard sponge. Im am 2/3 the way around with the final and the extra quart of clear will be here Tues.

    Gonna re-cover the sides where sand through happened with a fresh coat of BC, then follow up with a double dose of CC. Im starting to feel like Popeye! Last thing on the way out the door last night was a swipe with DW/DG on a rag and it looks pretty darn nice. This time Im not rushing it. So be it!

    The CC is hard as a rock! The worst part, of course, was way down loww, with orange peel on the rockers and door bottoms. Those are at least 90% now and my back and knees are about 60. Up on a rack it wouldve been a breeze. On the floor? I had to pay for the class LOL... ws

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  20. DasRottweiler

    DasRottweiler -BuickAddict-

    Pay attention to Ethan/Hugger instructions.
    He is part of the reason my paint came out as nice as it did. I also ran into a few faux pas in my basecoat and then several years later had some damage that needed repairs.
    Ethan respond to my cries for help and walked me thru it all. The tech guys and the president of Southern PolyUrethane Inc. also get some credit for the finished product, as do I, but Ethan's help was instrumental. Ty Hugger.....Jim
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