New house New shop

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  1. punk55

    punk55 West Texas Buicks

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  2. Donuts & Peelouts

    Donuts & Peelouts Life's 2 Short. Live like it.

    Think outside the box. There has to be something
     
  3. HotRodRivi

    HotRodRivi Tomahawks sighted overseas

    youl burn your hands in the summer touching the metal walls. And freez them in the winter. The radiant heat will suck the sweat right out of you as you get closer to it. Im sure youl do something. Especially with no shade trees around it.
     
  4. Donuts & Peelouts

    Donuts & Peelouts Life's 2 Short. Live like it.

  5. yachtsmanbill

    yachtsmanbill Well-Known Member

    We used 4 x 8 foot sheets of 4" thick (probably R24 or better) silver backed rigid fiberglass insulation panels in an old steel Butler building. Start out with a panel spike. Thats like a 2" sq. mesh pad with a 6" long wire spike sticking out. The pads glue on with a ceramic tile mastic stuff. Push the insulation block into place with a one way tin lock washer until tight, then snip off the extra. It goes fast. Hire someone to do the ceiling! Stuff cuts with a knife. Easy to be creative with it. Dont forget an insulated man door and overhead garage door (unless its a roll up type) as well. Even pink foam sheets are better than nothing.

    I used roll insulation in my new shop and battened the attic (open rafters) rolls with furring strips and 3/8 OSB with ring nails on the walls and then painted gloss white. When its -30F up here I'm in the shop in a T shirt. Ceiling fan blows the heat down too, OR, sucks the cool up.

    This is a lifetime investment. Dont have a shop that you dread working in summer OR winter. Theres also thermostatic vent roof fans, ceiling fans, and dont forget the heat and AC. I just put central AC in the house last year and the old 10k Btu window shaker is going through the wall in the shop. Thats gonna be plenty in a 22 x 22 shop. ws

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  6. punk55

    punk55 West Texas Buicks

    The builder says that after the insulation is on ( spray foam covering all metal surfaces with insulated overhead garage door), I will be able to heat and cool it with a combination window unit. I’m going to look into the mini split unit. He put in my door from the house garage to the side yard today. 1DF0186F-6E8E-4E7F-ADFA-DCAC105F9F89.jpeg 2F76E911-5B04-4093-9406-1BA7C4236114.jpeg
     
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  7. TexasT

    TexasT Texas, where are you from

    Looking good! Nice add on the Man door out the garage. Way easier than opening the big door.
    I think Id be looking at some kind of ridge vent, maybe powered to suck that air through on the cooler days. We had a house with an attic fan and it sure was nice until the real hot days started.
     
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  8. punk55

    punk55 West Texas Buicks

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  9. punk55

    punk55 West Texas Buicks

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    punk55 West Texas Buicks

  11. StfSocal

    StfSocal Well-Known Member

    Very cool and I am very jealous :D:D
     
  12. blyons79

    blyons79 Well-Known Member

    As I’m standing in my garage on a “cool” 94* Texas Summer day reading this thread:

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  13. 87GN_70GS

    87GN_70GS Well-Known Member

    Nice. Any floor coating, epoxy etc
     
  14. blyons79

    blyons79 Well-Known Member

    Of course he is! And a car lift and a wet bar and 90” TV. Where’s the full bath going??
     
  15. 87GN_70GS

    87GN_70GS Well-Known Member

    Here's mine, not hard to do or that expensive 474699_580751245298660_817600618_o.jpg
     
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  16. yachtsmanbill

    yachtsmanbill Well-Known Member

    So whats the R factor on that 1/2" closed cell spray on? Those tin building companies do that as a sales ploy to more or less eliminate "sweating" on the panels. Where you're at you'll need 10 tons of cooling or 150,000 btu's of heat to stay comfy. Just sayin'. Are you gonna cover it for shelving or hanging stuff other than the 70" flat screen LOL?
    No doubt thats a really nice shop, but I'd have invested in a better insulation product. A side note: Hydrocarbons (exhaust, paint fumes etc) help deteriorate that foam. ws

    https://www.energyvanguard.com/blog/25546/4-Pitfalls-of-Spray-Foam-Insulation
     
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  17. gstewart

    gstewart Well-Known Member

    Great shed. Did they spray foam with closed cell or open cell?
     
  18. blyons79

    blyons79 Well-Known Member

    Very nice. I want being facetious...at this rate...I wouldn’t be surprised if he did all those things. Just a really nice shop.

    Here’s what I have to deal with whenever it rains:

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    My concrete is so unlevel that it gets under my doors and makes a pond. The above is from a light rain. But he knows his guy screwed up and now I can get pretty much anything I need at a great price or free.
     
  19. dynaflow

    dynaflow shiftless...

    ...that's a shame. Have they considered cutting apron and installing drain channel, softer bottom seals with rain deflectors, and grinding bevel on floor lip. Should be something they can do to divert...
     
  20. woody1640

    woody1640 Well-Known Member


    They sell a molded rubber weatherstrip that glues to the concrete and has a channel in it for the door to fit into. I had a similar deal as you a few years ago and fixed it with one of those rubber weatherstrips.


    Keith
     
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