Interesting rules on another site im on

Discussion in 'The Bench' started by CJay, Apr 10, 2023.

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  1. Mister T

    Mister T Just truckin' around

    Thanks. Did some quick reading on the subject. Seems there's plenty of differences regarding state enforcement, even though it appears they're legal at the federal level.

    Now I need to satisfy my curiosity of whether "federal level" means US designated roadways such as interstates and US numbered highways. Not that I would consume mind altering substances before getting behind the wheel.
     
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  2. Luxus

    Luxus Gold Level Contributor

    I'm just going to leave this here.

    First Amendment

    Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
     
  3. CJay

    CJay Supercar owner Staff Member

    The "militia" is basically any able bodied person thst can pick up a rifle. In times of great crisis, the entire force of the United States can be brought to bear against the enemy.

    And as a last resort against a tyrannical government. It's in the constitution. .
     
  4. pbr400

    pbr400 68GS400

    Sometimes the threat to ‘the security of a free state’ is the state itself.
    Patrick
     
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  5. Houndogforever

    Houndogforever Silver Level contributor

    I just don't see the state as being the bad guy here. I don't see anything regarding taking up arms against our own country, which the south did and failed, so.......


    as to this.....
    The "militia" is basically any able bodied person thst can pick up a rifle. In times of great crisis, the entire force of the United States can be brought to bear against the enemy.

    And as a last resort against a tyrannical government. It's in the constitution. .


    I agree with the first statement completely and disagree with the second. oh well, different ideas.
     
  6. Mike Trom

    Mike Trom Platinum Level Contributor

    You don't live in NY State I guess:D
     
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  7. pbr400

    pbr400 68GS400

    I don’t view the state as ‘the bad guy’, but I think an armed populace might be what keeps the state from being that bad guy. I’m not willing to give up 2A to find out…

    Patrick
     
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  8. Brian Albrecht

    Brian Albrecht Classic Reflections

    Sounds like a real straight shooter! :D

    Sorry, butt that's the scope of my humor. Gotta bolt!
     
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  9. richopp

    richopp Well-Known Member

    I am not going to contribute to the discussion directly, but I have always maintained that IF the draft were still in place, there would be a different general attitude about the role of deadly weapons in our society AND the attitudes people have about being born in a nation that is basically "free".

    Once one is exposed to that lifestyle, one learns much about themsleves and their fellow citizens as well as those from countries where the governments are not as open as ours is nor where there is a Constitution that is (mostly) followed like ours.

    Next, if you serve and actually are deployed to a place where you participate, along with your fellow combatents, in open warfare, you develop a completely different point of view about weapons and their use.

    Clearly, some may disagree with this. One of my points is that sacrifice builds appreciation for your luck in being born here. Working for your freedom is a GOOD thing, and may help some of our citizens better understand how fortunate they are. There has to some reason people are risking their lives trying to enter our country and become citizens.

    That's all!

    Cheers!
     
  10. Guy Parquette

    Guy Parquette Platinum Level Contributor

    Simple fact. There are bad people out there. I cc license pocket carry. With a Ruger lcp max .380 for my OWN protection. With a half pocket holster. Can’t see the outline of it, no matter what type of pants. Just be Responsible.
    Ironically I also have two Beretta’s at home. One made in the USA and the other made in Italy. The one made in the USA has a better fit and finish with a deeper and better/thicker blueing and shoots straighter. Go figure.
    Also a Ruger AR556 that I love to modify and shoot .
    My other hobby is shooting at the range with friends.
     
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  11. CJay

    CJay Supercar owner Staff Member

    You cannot legislate evil.
     
  12. Luxus

    Luxus Gold Level Contributor

    You can legislate the tools evil uses.
     
  13. CJay

    CJay Supercar owner Staff Member

    Exactly! All you have to do is ban something and it becomes unobtainable
     
  14. FJM568

    FJM568 Well-Known Member

    You quoted it right there...

    "the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed"

    All the other amendments, people often claim them to be referring to individual rights. Why would the 2nd be different?
     
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  15. Luxus

    Luxus Gold Level Contributor

    So you approve of banning AR-15s because they are the most common weapon in mass murder?
     
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  16. Luxus

    Luxus Gold Level Contributor

    You can't cherry pick the part you like. Quote the entire amendment.
     
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  17. FJM568

    FJM568 Well-Known Member

    Like when "A well regulated militia", gets cherry picked? You're right, you have to look at the whole amendment. I did cherry pick what gets left out. The important part.

    All amendments, and the Constitution itself, are about the individual, and their God given rights.
     
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  18. TrunkMonkey

    TrunkMonkey Totally bananas

    That would actually be the handgun.
     
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  19. CJay

    CJay Supercar owner Staff Member

    Sorry, i was being a little sarcastic....banning ARs would be unconstitutional. It's not 1994. We have the Heller decision. Guns in common use are protected. And the AR15 is the most commonly used sporting rifle there is.
     
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  20. CJay

    CJay Supercar owner Staff Member

    Actually, more people get killed by "hands and feet" thsn by any firearm
     
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