Interesting rules on another site im on

P.S. I am kind of glad we have got to talk this out.
We know where everyone stands,we know we aren’t all going to agree on anything revolving around the topics being discussed and in the old U.S.A. that was fine but at least we got to talk.

Hate to say it but I believe our country has/is being destroyed from the inside out and other countries are eating it up and licking their chops for when we are weak enough to give us the death blow.

Anyhow try and enjoy your Friday everyone.

 

Boy O boy you aren’t wrong lol
When I was younger I worked at the homeless shelter and I saw occupants that seemed fine until something came over them and they suddenly snapped & went DARK so I’d protect the women volunteers.
That lady went from cordial to bat **** crazy QUICK.

 

Comparing a small island nation with the 4th largest country on the planet simply doesn't make any sense.

Canada has strict gun control laws yet the bad guys don't have problems obtaining them. Where there's a will, there's always a way. At least swimming across an ocean isn't involved.

 

Oh, I wrote that? Wow, had no idea.

 

I am aware that in certain special circumstances it is possible to get a tank and or a machine gun, but for most people nationwide, it would be in the same room as impossible. I know of a guy in Holliston, MA that has a tank (Sherman, I think) that he has fully restored right down to the machine guns (Brownings, I believe). He has permits for everything including the guns, but the permits require that certain named parts must be removed from the machine guns except when the guns are being serviced. I will correct my previous post - you can own a tank, it's the guns that are the problem. I also read an article where a guy wanted to do a 100% accurate restoration of a P-51 Mustang. It took some doing, but he got permits for the Brownings and he does not have to deactivate them. His permit says that the guns may not be loaded in flight, or anywhere else except when being test-fired on the ground (and the permits go on to specify the exact condition as to how the airplane must be secured and the size and shape of the gun range including specifications for the berm). I am not wiggling out of my earlier post about infringement though. The conditions that I mentioned for both the tank and the mustang are limitations, and fall under the umbrella of infringement. I'm also not suggesting that these limitations are a bad thing. My point is that they are in fact, infringements, and are therefore unconstitutional.

 

There are already a boatload of schools with armed guards. It is unrealistic to assume that schools simply don't have them. So saying "add armed guards" is not a true solution. Perhaps "adding more armed guards with semiauotmatic weapons" would at least be different than what we have now, but do we really want to go there? Do we have the resources to pay for it?

Also, The only reason to equip them with semiautomatic weapons would be that possible intruders had semiautomatic / automatic weapons. Now if those intruders couldn't get those weapons...

 

Well said John, my friend.

 

I am a retired public school teacher that is not opposed to guns, but would refuse to carry one in school, and I probably would think about changing careers if teachers were required or encouraged to do so. We are public school teachers, not cops, and I'd be scared to death that someone would take my gun and shoot me or someone else with it. There is a sad difference between the open, friendly, welcoming school where I taught, and the closed up, forbidding, prison that it has become. I'm glad that I retired.

 

I can definitely understand that John

 

I also don't believe that arming the teachers is the answer.. we need professionals in this position, that train constantly, on neutralizing threats. Considering where we rank in school spending vs the world, it's a fact we will provide the funds required. The vast majority of parents approve of this.

The idea here is to create a understanding among the population that schools are not the soft targets they are now.

As to the actual text of the second amendment, the passage Max is referring to is this in part.. "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State"

Again, in the context of the times, and considering the hesitancy of many of the state delegates to wanting a strong (or any) Federal authority, I believe that the framers deliberately did not spell out who in fact was going to be the "enemy" of the "security of a free state". After having just rid themselves of their overseas masters, the last thing they wanted to to was appoint new ones by their own actions. An armed citizenry is the best deterrent to tyranny. They were wise enough to understand that in a document designed to endure for centuries, as the basis for the rule of law, there was no way they could list these "enemies". For the same reason that they don't spell out exactly what an "firearm is, or is not.

Therefore the solution was to make an iron clad rule, in which the citizens of the US have the unequivocal right to keep and bear arms.

Section 8 of the constitution empowers the congress to raise and levy taxes for an Army and Navy for the common defense.

The entire bill of rights was about individual liberties, not about national issues such as the common defense against foreign invaders.

JW

 

The guns the police and guards at schools are using are semi-auto. Please get an understanding of the terminology. Clips are for hair and magazines are for most firearms. Yes clips are used in some guns but not AR or handguns.
Take a few intro to guns and safe handling of firearms classes. A person afraid of a guns (or uneducated about) is more dangerous than a person that is educated.

 

A rabid dog is either treated & cured or it is eliminated!
We don't cage them for a few years and then let them out on society!
We as a society need to come up with rational solutions.
Either you abide by the laws or go down with the other murderers of yesteryear... And don't give some rubbish out of context about thou shalt not kill!.. if you commit murder you die!... It is definitely a deterrent IMHO

 

Focusing on the important parts, what to call the device that holds the cartridges. Does it matter if it is a clip, a magazine or a dohicky for bullets?

 

Get the terminology right before you make your comments! The word is "doohickey."

 

For a "christian" you sure don't do much forgiving or not judging. You know, without sin, cast the first stone etc.
Again, we have vastly more people in prison than any other country and yet we are still free to murder and shoot up schools.
Perhaps, just perhaps punishment isn't the only answer.
How about well paying jobs that young people can look forward to rather than being locked in the lower economic class?
How about stressing family and education and financial opportunity?
Nope, can't do that stuff, it's socialism.

 

Cherry picking stats again?