I also have a set of Venolia's, a set of heads and a roller cam all from a failed SS motor I bought. Ron Do you know what year the SS motor was setup for? Are the heads ported? What does the dish in the pistons measure and the oversise? Dan
Dan, intake is on it's way. The piston's are .060 over never check the dish. Actually I've never checked head numbers or any thing. When I bought all the parts I really just wanted some roller rockers and a balancer. The guy told me if I saw the intake and other parts I would take all the parts. He was right. We'll talk when intake arrives. Ron
John, a couple more. http://www.v8buick.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=21689 http://www.v8buick.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=21690
ron, can i get a chance to play with it too?? the top view is got me confused. if thats a mopar, i dont know that one. using a 383 intake, you will have to cut approx 1" out of the middle. it about the same for the 440. but the deck height makes it too wide for the 350. good for the 455. suppose you could cut(a lot) the flanges and weld to plates to try and make it work. my tunnel will be 2 seperate manifolds on the plates. only problem is the runners from head to head dont match up well. there is a lot of slanted porting to do. just not a straight shot. but thats what i am using. gonna run two 500 cfm 2 bbls on it. also the 383 is 110 degree spread. so the adapters plates have a 10 deg angle cut on them to compensate. cant cut the flange. adapter plate thickness at the fat end is about .950 if i remember my notes. i also have a sbm M1 intake. head to head runners are almost perfect. but you have to cut approx 1/2" out of the middle. the sbm has 84 deg spread. here you can cut the manifold 3 deg per side. about .150. it wont hurt the flange. then just make flat plates to make up the gap. dont have thickness dim's yet. but i am looking for a sbm tunnel. i have a 3rd manifold coming. will report when figured out. this what i have learned so far. no secrets here. hopefully i will have one of these done for cecil cty. :grin: btw, you know what would really be nice, make it out the plastic intake material they use on the new car efi's. injection mold is expensive, but you can make them by the bunches!!!! john open for suggestions
Go back to the playroom and sweep up the shavings mess you left :laugh: :laugh: . Is that a good suggestion ? Just having fun is all. Just got back in from the shop working on my "lil' tugger". Motor and trans are in and buttoned down. Now on to the wiring mess, and rear end swap. :TU:
rough machined the plates w/out angles cut. looking at how it will come together has put me in a dilemma. i have to section about an 1 1/4" out of it to all ports to line up somewhat. but because of the head to head being about 1/4" off......i can blend the ports to an angle.....or maybe cut the tunnel down the middle, which i would have 4 pieces.......... or i can go to the sbm m1 intake which is closer...... any suggestions john
John What is the sbm m1? Is it a small block mopar? Maybe we can figure this intake mistery. Does anyone know who made the intake and if that person would tell us what they used. Keep up the trying John. Dan
duh on my part again.........scrounging the net for some odd stuff to use on the buick after coming in from cutting one plate to fit the sbm intake. angle a little off. back about scrounging, when the dim bulb lit up ou: ou: ........using the sbm, we know the port to port length is about 1/2" longer and head to head is a wee bit off.........why not just keep cutting the flange up thru the logs till the dim's come close to whats needed. but still have to have plates. got get of the box more often. now i got to check the bbm. ohhhhhhhh dave, think about the above open for suggestions... john
What is the continued milling going to do to the height, length of the runners ? And what about the entry angle at the head ? Last time I check I was still up on that bid. As soon as I get that intake here I will be able to start thinking again. :TU:
my thoughts(?) are to match the ports but in the process the plates are thickerererer. make sense?? there was something else, but i forgot..... " and dont bring the metal chips in the house".......sheesh
dave, i remember now.....what if if you got something like a chevy fi unit, the one with 4 holes on each side, and disconnected some of stuff and build a big box for your carb/turbo motor. ya thunk it would work???? lol
6 of one, half dozen of another John. There is a vortec box/enclosure out there now for a such a set up as mine. You can find them or buy them new a little over $500. Not a bad setup and the transfer linkage is ok. ORRRR, and what I am looking at, just mod the carb for boost, and use a EV hat on it. Hat is around $250 and the mod to the carb. if sent out is about that. Making another $500 bill. I am going the hat route mainly because of tuning the thing. Once it's all figured out that box would't be bad I guess. But I have a feeling I am gonna be practicing up on jet swaps alot,lol. I'll find out. So whatcha think...... should I just send you a new intake and a couple benjamins ??? You got the tools and desire, where as I am gonna have to farm work out(you STOLE that machine again by the way haha). Talk to ya later.............
Q1: The M1 is a small block "mopar performance" model of intake Q2: If you are talking about the single plane intake tested on Robs motor it was build by Darryl Roederer, A.K.A. "Professor Buick" in the late 70's out of one of a few kits ever sold. I believe the kits were sold out of california but were discontinued soon after they were released. I remember hearing of 4 or 5 such intakes made and only the one known to be around still. If I remember right one of the intakes was lost in a fire... Darryl, where are you??
sbm m1's are single plane intakes, but some have rails and bottom plate and others do not. i have rail version and one w/out coming soon. will see how it works. btw, they also have 9" and 9.5" deck intakes. just something else to drive us crazy. and you cant tell them apart w/out a program. ou: also, i cannot figure out which sbm is used on rob's intake. anybody know?? john
i bought 383 to 440 adapter plates thinking they would work for us for the 383 tunnel. i back away from that for now. gotta buy more stock. i cut the plates with a 3 deg angle to fit the sbm intake. NICE. but the 383 plates are too thin because it makes the sbm sits too low in port relationship with the 350 ports. sooo, i cut the 1" plates that was to be bbm to the sbm 3 degree angle. plate is now 3.750 wide x .950 on the big end of angle. now the sbm ports are about equal top to bottom to the 350. :laugh: there is an error here. these are not ported 350 heads, just stock dummies. but if you figure it out it will be close. have to port to match when assembled. dave, you think i should find some time to make the supercharger brackets..... i think andrea is gonna be made at me when the bills for stock come in. any suggestions from anyone??
