I can't wait to see the results guys. By the way are you going to test a stock single carb set up just to see the gains. I was just wondering.
Yacster- Naahh. That information is already provided by Buick. I don't see where there would be any gain in that. The purpose of the tests are to compare the performance of 2x4 manifolds currently available. Although... Eelco will also very shortly (if not already) have available an aluminum high performance single four aftermarket intake that should blow away anything else... Just ask Marty about that... 66GSCONV- See my response on 11-16 on this same topic about milling off 3/8ths of an inch. I guess that would also depend on what kind of aftermarket air cleaner are you considering.
[ Although... Eelco will also very shortly (if not already) have available an aluminum high performance single four aftermarket intake that should blow away anything else... Just ask Marty about that... Ok marty - I am asking What about the new single 4BBL intake ... Let's hear what ya got there ! (Still want the dual's - they just look so damn cool:bglasses
Hi Guys. Sorry for the delay in response here. I don't get a lot of time to get on here. I just finished the 3x2 manifold and a single four is on the drawing board but hasn't come to fruition. I will post pics of the 3x2 in a week or so. It's a new runner design and a real bad ass to boot. The carb spacing on the 2x4 is a little closer than stock so a stock 2x4 air cleaner wil not work. We have had several customers with Rivieras running 2-2.5" air cleaners with no trouble and we just finished the molds and poured the first finned oval air cleaner of our own design. Pics will come soon on that also. The B&M style filters with the rectangle elements hanging off the side look and work good also. If you need to get a message to me faster email me direct: sales@eelco-usa.com Take Care, Marty BTW, TA Performance stocks our 2x4 manifold also.
As an update... The Diamond forged racing pistons are in:TU: Got ARP bolts. The heads are done They are ported- mostly bowl cleanup (needed lots!) and gasket matched. Not changing valve diameter other than stem size to 11/32 Got the 2x4 intake... Sweet! The Bary Grant 625's are also ordered. The block is done. It has been bored .030 over, and journals line bored, and all the other necessities. It has been sonic tested- Plenty of meat! I talked to Gary about Tom T's advise on hard blocking an inch up in the water passage to reduce/prevent ring seal problems, and he agreed that was a great idea. Have been waiting on special ordered 11/32 valves from Manley... and waiting...and waiting...I got this Email today from Gary. Hi Eric. I received your new valves today and they are very nice however they forgot one process which is major importance. They forgot to undercut the stem behind the head so today i am checking fit and geometry and then shipping them back to be completed. Thx Gary..........block is soniced and filled to the bottom of the freeze plugs. Gary Stevenson Engine Research and Development PO BOX 126 CRESWELL ORE 97426 www.racerscorner.com Oh, and speaking of Tom... Yes, his roller tip rockers are also in the plan for the dyno testing. Got 'em sent Tom? Did Gary call you yet? If you are waiting on payment still, let me know and I will take care of that. In the mean time, and now that the weather is getting better the Riv is getting some TLC. The interior is stripped out. I have all new rubber, vinyl, carpet and seat belts. I am replacing all the light bulbs, checking motors, heater/AC controls, etc.The miscelaneous assesories- fan, brackets, pulleys, etc are cleaned stripped and primered. The ST400 is out to be gone through. I have pretty much left Gary alone as he has been extreemly busy. He rarely answers his phone but always calls me back. My "holy nail" is sitting in parts cart next to a 426 Hemi out of a very low milage mint 'cuda. I am "small peanuts" in comparison to all the other racing motors in his shop. Besides, the last thing I want a rush job. He told me last week this is his last season in the racing business. He will semi-retire and wants to do only hand-picked hoby jobs like mine. On top of a big wedding and honeymoon in June:bglasses: , funds are tight now but hopefully will be able to fire by July. Catch you all later. This WILL happen. Stay tuned! Erik
sounds GREAT! if i may ask, how much is he charging you for the build and what all are you having done? wes
Too much of course! You know... These things are never cheap, and cost do tend to sneak up. The final bill is not in yet. I wasn't originally planning on going to the extent that I am now, but I am enjoying the hoby. Just the added cost of the Roller Rockers, and the headders blow me over my budget, but as far as the machining cost, I thought was very reasonable. Gary prices out each step of the process and has each one listed on the work-up sheet. The costs go high when custom labor is involved- porting heads, fiddleing with valve geometry, etc. Gary has already spent many unbillable hours because of the research and checking and re-checking because it's not just any ol' Chebby he builds every day going in a sprint car. Basically the nail is being rebuilt, ballenced, blueprinted and dynoed- complete- from carb to pan. Sorry I can't give you a clear figure at this time. By my estimate, I am guessing I am running around $4,000 range at this point... Then Dyno time will come in. Erik
Haven't heard anything from yourself or Gary. I did do as I said & have a set with shafts set & ready to go. You or Gary can give me a shout.
now, is he going to get flow numbers from your heads?.. i'd like to see the results of thoses and the dyno runs.. wes
Payment in full for Tom's Roller Rockers sent .:dollar: This better be good, 'cause there goes the spending money for the honeymoon trip! (Glad the fiance' understands!:spank: )
Erik, now your making me the heavy!!!!! LOL!!!!! That's one hell of an understanding future wife. Hope it continues that way, way into the future!!!! HA!!!HA!!!!HA!!!!! Tom T.
sorry for the noob ? But Why is it important to sometimes "fill" a block for the seals. How does it help. P.S. Tom, Any idea when the tips will ship. Just created ONE clean, safe,uncluttered spot in the garage w/ all the house crap in there..ou: s
Hardblocking the water passages helps stiffen up the bottom of the cylinders, keeping them from flexing and egg shaping. By only filling up to the bottom of the freezeout/casting plugs, you still allow water/coolant to pass and help cool the engine. It is a very worth while procedure especially if you are going to pound on the engine, and the cost is typically very low. It can be done at home for the 'do it yourselfers' I think jegs, Summit etc sell 'hard block'. I think most engine machinists prefer to have the hard block installed and 'setup' before machining, but you should check with your machinist first.
