2x4 intake flow & performance data

Discussion in ''Da Nailhead' started by ahhh65riv, Nov 15, 2006.

  1. ahhh65riv

    ahhh65riv Well-Known Member

    You think you guys antsy!!!.... I've got a BAD "Jones" to hear her thumping like you wouldn't believe!

    Of all things I am waiting on Buick Green VHT engine paint I ordered before Christmas!

    Erik
     
  2. telriv

    telriv Founders Club Member

    Eric, order the paint from Bill Hirsch like I said. If you oder it Monday I'll almost be willing to bet you'll have it by Wednesday or Thursday. That's ridiculous waiting for paint in a rattle can for 3+ weeks.
    Just my 2c.
     
  3. ahhh65riv

    ahhh65riv Well-Known Member

    Paint is in and delivered to Gary.

    Note:
    1. I am not happy about Classic Buicks substituting Duplicolor for VHT!GRRRRR!!!! :af:

    2. They took WAAAAAY too long to recieve and process my order. I could have driven to Dallas Oregon in just over an hour!

    Gary says the SBC is on the dyno next, and I should be on the dyno late next week. however...

    ... So the Dyno operators wife is pregnate and due to pop any time. = could affect schedule

    ... I found out today the carbs didn't get ordered, so now I'm shopping for who's got the Eddlebrocks I want for sale... Shouldn't be an issue to make the dyno date. (Any good leads?)

    Erik
     
  4. telriv

    telriv Founders Club Member

    Yeah, most good speed shops can have the carbs. & strip kits the next day. Pricing for 750's ,manual chokes, runs about $250.00ea. & strip kits around $50.00
     
  5. Erik
    I'm in Salem and also playing with a nailhead.. maybe we'll run into one another. I have always ordered my nailhead green paint from Carmen and it's been excellent both in color and price.. I just gave a can away last week because my nailhead is a 66 and i didnt have a need for it. Bob
     
  6. ahhh65riv

    ahhh65riv Well-Known Member


    Looking for 2 650 AVS with Endurashine- I'm seeing prices all over $400.

    Erik
     
  7. yacster

    yacster Lv the gun tk the Canolis

    The endurashine adds about $100 to the price:Dou:
     
  8. ahhh65riv

    ahhh65riv Well-Known Member

    Alrighty folks!

    I can now tell you what NEXT feels like!

    The Duplicolor was a lot better paint than expected. I would definately use it again!

    Dyno operator's wifes baby was born.:birthday:

    The blown SBC is on the Dyno this week. I watched the break-in run and the first pull last night. Was running lean (hot) and is getting re-jetted. They are now waiting on Demon Jets (didn't have the ones they need) and will run again on Thursday.

    I apologise posting a picture of the belly-button but i want to show the Dyno. I have video also, but will save that for the Nailhead run!

    Marty was supposed to ship down the borrowed Nailhead/Chevy bellhousing this week...

    I think I'm going to score some Sanderson Headers... Or should I go TA?
     

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  9. ahhh65riv

    ahhh65riv Well-Known Member

    Blown SBC is still on the dyno... Barry Grant didn't plumb the power valve internally, and left no instructions it needed done! There goes a chunk of change of wasted time on the dyno that could have been prevented!

    Got Carbs. Endura shine= Worth every bit of $100!:TU:
    Got bellhousing and pilot bushing for the dyno.
    Got Taylor plug wires- 8mm Spiro Pro- Yellow (SWEET!):pp http://www.taylorvertex.com/
    Got Sanderson block huggger headers :Brow:
    Got finned aluminum stuff.:cool:
    Got carb linkage:eek2:

    :kodak: Here's photos I took with my camera phone with some (but not all) of the above stuff. Oh- and it's not finish painted yet either.

    Anxious
    Erik
     

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  10. yacster

    yacster Lv the gun tk the Canolis

    Get over there and unbolt that Chebby from the dyno, it's probably making the machine weak. The suspense it killing US!!!!!! Sorry I have to play the part of the impatient New Yorker!!!:laugh:
    Engine looks good:TU:
     
  11. wkillgs

    wkillgs Gold Level Contributor

    It's been a long time coming Erik!
    I'm anxiously awaiting the results as well!

    May I ask if the compression ratio was calculated? What is the dome volume, the deck clearance, and head gasket thickness? And finally, were the heads just given a clean-up cut, or was extra material removed?
    I expect to take my block to the machine shop soon. I was going to shoot for 0.020" deck clearance and top that with an 0.015" gasket for a total of 0.035".
    I'm curious how your build compares. Thanks:TU:
     
  12. ahhh65riv

    ahhh65riv Well-Known Member

    Walt,

    I dont have that data at my fingertips, but I can tell you my compression is 9:1. There's no sense in requiring oneself to buy race gas. You know what I'm saying? I dont want detonation issues either. At some point, I might be inclined to throw a 100 shot of nitrous at it or something, and would be built to handle it.
    The head were CC'd (many times) for EVEN volume. The Racing Pistons are custom so the domes were kept even also. Again, I can't tell you the figures at the moment, but the machining was VERY minimal as I recall. If fact I don't think the heads or the deck took much of anthing (if anything at all) to get true. The gasket was the standard Fel-Pro gasket out of the box whatever it measures.

    I hope that satisfies your question.

    Erik
     
  13. wkillgs

    wkillgs Gold Level Contributor

    Thanks Erik. I suspect the 425 in my blue car has a CR is in that range as well.
    It has run 102 mph in the 1/4 mile. At close to 3900 lbs race weight, 1/4 mile/HP calculators put it at approx 385 engine HP.
    It'll be interesting to see how yours compares.
     
  14. funkyriv

    funkyriv Well-Known Member

    Man, this guy is patient - this post started 1+ years ago. wow, i can learn many lessons other than engine building from his experience.

    I hope your patient waiting leads to fantastic results with the motor!

    cheers!
     
  15. Tech @ BG

    Tech @ BG New Member

    All of our blower calibrated carburetors use an externally referenced power valve and are not plumbed internally. This is so that a vacuum line can be installed and ran to the manifold to properly open and close the powervalve. Gary is sending the 525's back so we can take a look at them and determine why they were lean. The motor looks nice in the pics.
     
  16. ahhh65riv

    ahhh65riv Well-Known Member

    Wow! I am really impressed you guys have an ear on this board. To me that shows that BG is willing to listen to it's customers, and that means alot in todays market! Especialy since you don't even make a carb for us Nailheaders!
    (HINT-HINT-WINK WINK!)

    I hope you guys get it figured out soon- Whatever the issue is! As you can see there are a lot of folk following this thread that are anxious to see the results of my dyno run (myself included). Yes. I have patience. As the saying goes...Good things come to those who wait. Besides, what else am I going to do?

    And just for the record- As you may have read in this very post, if I had the option there would be Barry Grant carbs on that thar NAIL you see in those photos instead of Edelbrocks!!!

    As usual... the legendary Nailhead Buick falls second in line to the Mass marketed SBC. :(

    Thanks for weiging in!

    Erik
     
  17. jamhdit

    jamhdit Just nuts about buick's

    wow you guys are patient

    when i started reading this thread and saw the date i thought for sure id see some #'s at the end here
     
  18. Tech @ BG

    Tech @ BG New Member

    We do care what our customers have to say which is why we read and interact on the boards. We are here to try and help. I'll have the carburetors soon and will go back through and flow them when they get here and then check the specs on them.
     
  19. yacster

    yacster Lv the gun tk the Canolis

    Drum roll please!!!!!!


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    And the numbers are???????????????
     
  20. skrubahlinc

    skrubahlinc Member

    Holy cow the suspense is killing me...
     

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