1970 GS Stage 1, automatic, numbers matching, Silver Mist.

James,
Obviously I have Chris highjacking my thread now and he will be sure to do anything he can to dissuade you from buying anything that is mine so I will be happy to get the pictures to you as soon as I can, but it will, in all likelihood, be next week.

Chris, you should be ashamed of yourself...how completely juvenile. Keep on doing what your doing though so that everyone will see the real you.

Thanks,
Mike

 

Mike,

Please don't blame Chris for hi-jacking your thread as he was only trying to help me locate a car for a great friend of mine. Chris located a car for me last year that I have always dreamed of having (documented Fire Red 70 GS, Stage 1, 4 speed) that I would have never had a chance at since it was in a newspaper ad on the East coast somewhere. He has also helped another good friend of mine Jeff Horsman locate his car (again, a 70 Stage 1, 4 speed - BTW, where does he keep finding these rare cars????), as well as several other board members. He has a memory of these cars and their owners/history that is simply amazing. I'm sure he was just trying to help, and I appreciate his willingness/generosity to do so.

Post/send some pics and a complete history with a firm price as soon as you can.

Thanks!

 

Mike,

I wasn't trying to hijack your thread, and I will delete my post immediately, I am sure your detailed, accurate descriptions and the great deals that give you people will allow you to sell the car in no time.

 

Can you post these photos here for me to see or a link to a photo site?? I don't do high dollar car deals w/ pm's and e-mails. I post all conversation right here and would love to see the pictures... but I do not respond to pm's on these deals regarding condition/originality/numbers. Many times there are hidden historical facts/issues that other members may know about that you didn't know.

 

Mike,

I've re-read this thread, and have changed my mind. Sorry, but something just isn't right, and your replies to board members seem very defensive. I've asked three times for more pics, more history on the car, and a firm price. I also asked you about a third party inspection. I can understand the pics may take a while, but you have been on the board several times (you even replied in this thread twice) and haven't said anything about the detailed history of the work done to the car, agreed to allow a third party inspection, or even given me a firm a price.

I agree with KC, you should post the details here for everyone to see.

Good luck. It looks like a nice car.

 

Guys,
I appreciate it, but the truth is I have not had time to take more pictures yet...I WELCOME A 3RD PARTY INSPECTION ANYTIME!!! I would actually much prefer that you have someone come and take a look at it.

I don't know much about the history of it other than what I posted. I know it is a numbers-matching car, engine and tranny match, carb does not. I have a re-stamped distributor from Donny and, as you all know, the correct, and very nice, rear-end from JKC. It is a real car with NO A/C, factory 8-track, pointed-lens gauges w/tach and disc brakes. I wanted to finish putting on the moldings (wheel-well and rocker) before I took more pics, but I work two full-time jobs and just have not had the time, plus, to be honest, I would love to keep the car (I know, I just don't need it...too many toys, according to my wife anyway). The guy I bought it from owned it since the early '70's, the car was painted and the motor rebuilt about 12 years ago, vinyl top is beautiful with no bubbles underneath, bumpers were re-done, and it has been in storage up until I bought it...absolutely nothing to hide, I saw it on a lift and the floors and trunk look good, the floors did have some repairs done, but he also gave me two new full-length floor pans with the car, if someone doesn't want "repaired" original pans. They weren't that bad so he fixed the originals rather than replace them. He put on NOS fenders, NOS core support and lower rear 1/4's prior to painting, it is all metal, not a Bondo bucket, and very straight, paint is nice but driver quality, it's not going to win BCA Gold, but it's decent. The interior looks all original and is nice, no cracks in the dash, no splits in the seats, headliner looks perfect, door panels are all nice. Please, anyone who is interested, call me anytime, I will go ahead and get pictures this weekend even though I do not have the trim all back on yet.

Also included are a COMPLETE set of new correct, satin center wheels w/brand new Radial T/A's (245 and 275-60's) and Romanowski center caps...never mounted, plus the 15X7's w/incorrect caps that are on the car. There are all new emblems and rear bumper emblem on the car now also. There are NEW Legendary mats in the car (just got them:TU and the grille has no cracks (nice). Also, I have an extra air cleaner assembly and two mint levers (shift and turn signal) to replace the less nice ones that were on the car. I have spent a small fortune just on all this stuff.


Thanks,
Mike

 

148 pictures of this car are now posted...you can view them at:

http://public.fotki.com/E86A38/1970-buick-gs-stage-1/

I would more than welcome anyone to come see it anytime, or call me with any questions at all.

The asking price is a more in tune with the market $29,000 with all of the new parts, also included, but not pictured are the rocker moldings (mint), new rear springs and shocks, a new, correctly-dated distributor from Donny, a nicely restored additional original air cleaner assembly and, of course, the new wheels, new tires and all the trim pieces (along with some extras) that are not yet installed, oh and also the original rear bumper emblem which has just been replaced with a new one.

Thanks,
Mike
614-893-3857

 

sure appears to be a Lark interior...w/all due respect, I don't see it as a 29K car. Best of luck on your sale though, thanks again

 

Thats the base GS interior,I've had several with that same interior.
gary

 

No, that's the "Standard" interior.. the typical GS was ordered with either the notchback bench seat or buckets which gave you the "Deluxe interior" but I have seen real GS's with this interior before.

128 on the cowl tag indicates a black vinyl bench, and that only could be had with the standard interior.

JW

 

Just curios Mike, is this car numbers matching block? uzzled:

Is this the same car discussed in this thread?

http://www.v8buick.com/showthread.php?t=111881

David R

 

Mike,

What is the date code cast into the front of the block? Since the engine serial number is still visible, the SS stamping and production code should also be visible on the deck surface between 5 & 7. Can you add some pics of the date code casting and SS stamping?

Thanks,

 

Yes, this is the same car...and I ASSURE you it is the numbers-matching block, and, if the person who looked at it before would have just looked on the driver's side of the transmission, he would have clearly seen the VIN number there as well. The "BB" tag is still there, it is just painted over from a prior rebuild.

The SS is clearly visible between 5 and 7, and the VIN is clearly visible between 1 and 3.

I guarantee this to be the original block and transmission or TWICE the buyer's money back and they can keep the car...and that is definitely the original, base-level interior. I would have never bought it in the first place had it not been "all VIN-specific parts matching"

Thanks guys...I had no idea that other thread existed, but that definitely is my car!

Mike

 

I will take more pictures, I believe the block was cast on May 23rd, 1969. All the numbers are clearly visible, including the "SS" and the VIN on the block and transmission.

 

Hey, the guy (Jim Jones) who apparently looked at it back then is the guy who came to look at my car already a couple months ago! Funny, he never made mention of looking at it a year and a half earlier. He certainly saw the VIN on the tranny and the numbers on the block when he looked at it here, I know that for a fact.

The block has a build date of May 23rd, but it certainly is NOT May 23rd of 1970...it is May 23rd of 1969!

I never met the guy's son when I bought it, I dealt directly with the owner. He guaranteed it was the original block, heads, intake, manifolds and trans as well...and I made him put it on a lift so I could inspect it, before I bought it.

Thanks guys,
Mike

 

Hi,
Definitely not a Skylark interior. In 1970, that interior is the base interior for any GS...see my pictures, the door panels have the vertical "GS" emblems. It is definitely original (although the front seat may have been redone at some point, upholstery looks original though, kind of hard to tell). A few others chimed in on this as well in the post, verifying it's correctness. I don't really think I would be interested in trading for a base GS455 car though even though it is a convertible (I actually am a hardtop guy anyway), but your cars do look nice!
Thanks again,
Mike

 

Thanks for clearing that up Mike. I am keeping my 70 car...it appraised very well and if I ever trade/sell anything it would be the 72. The 72 is a car that would realistically be something offered up plus cash...I really like your car, but I think we are too far apart on price

 

Cool, it is definitely a nice looking car, I have learned a very valuable lesson though over the last couple years...buy the "big dog" or don't buy anything at all, unless you plan on never selling it, or you absolutely steal it. Otherwise, when you go to sell it you will get nothing but everyone telling you "hey, nice car...if it were only a 440 or a Hemi" or "if it were only a W-30 or a Stage1 or (fill in the blank)..." well, you get the point. Good luck with the sale of the '72, you have some really nice cars.

On another note, the only thing I would consider trading my car for is, up or down, on a numbers-matching engine and tranny 1969 Stage1 4-speed coupe.

 

These are facts I've collected over the years...

The earliest GS I've ever documented was a convertible (from England) now owned by a board member and registered.

This car was one of the first built for the 1970 model year (08B car) and has an H-8 block casting - August 8th 1969. VIN/Motor code match.

I don't believe Buick started casting the 1970 455 motors until late July/early August 1969. The tooling would have been casting 400/430 blocks in May 1969.

Just the facts I've collected over the years :Smarty:

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I started out w/ the big dog...70 Stage I 4speed Platinum Mist. Correct engine and rear end...I had replaced the trans at least twice while I owned it as the Muncies were glass that broke easily, but everything else was decent on the car. Mike G ended up w/ the carb and distributor as I put a Fred Catlin built carb and Stinger system on it...hell I didn't know that the Stage I carbs and distributors would go through the roof...this was in 1988. Bucket seat w/ consolette, WG wheels, ralleye ride suspension...believe it or no though I had to put a ralleye wheel on it. Lots of granny steering wheels back then

Honestly, the 70 vert in terms of numbers and value is right up there w/ the first Stage 1 I had, but doesn't carry that aura of a Stage car to the casual enthusiast. Do I wish the 70 vert was a Stage I vert...for appraised value purpose of course but do I think they are truly worth that much difference...no way in hell.

Honestly, the only car that will get me emotional when buying nowdays and make me pull the spend it now trigger is my old Stage car or another original numbers example of it or an Apollo White GSX (don't care if it is Stage I or not)
Your car reminds me a bunch of my 4 speed car and I would still look at a deal but like I said, I would have to move the 72 and I don't know that I really want to plus the price would have to be figured out.