i gots the covid

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  1. nekkidhillbilly

    nekkidhillbilly jeffreyrigged youtube channel owner

    i had possibly in 19 as well. my throat has not been sore as for now. just runny nose eyes and a cough. occasional fever. last time i had straight cought and high fever.
     
  2. nekkidhillbilly

    nekkidhillbilly jeffreyrigged youtube channel owner

    i know just want to help people. it really bothers me thinking about my pregnant wife that has it as well. me idc so much but other people that matter to me yes. i dont trust politicians at all so i want to give someone who could care less about thats insight if that makes sense.
     
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  3. nekkidhillbilly

    nekkidhillbilly jeffreyrigged youtube channel owner

    basically. id take another shot or snort malaria meds right now if i thought it would help.
     
  4. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member

    I don't think anyone trusts politicians these days, but I definitely do NOT take my medical advice from them, nor the people on Facebook, or anonymous blogs. I talk to my doctors for medical advice. I trust my doctors, or they would not be my doctors anymore. I think many people are "intellectually lazy", and critical thinking is something they never employ.
     
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  5. docgsx

    docgsx It's not a GTX

    https://rumble.com/vkfz1v-the-vaccine-causes-the-virus-to-be-more-dangerous.html
     
  6. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member

  7. Mister T

    Mister T Just truckin' around

    At times like this, I miss having a GS to rip through the gears while shredding some tires............;)o_O My Navigator just won't provide the same satisfaction.

    Just a small distraction from a third rail topic.:cool:
     
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  8. GSX 554

    GSX 554 Gold Level Contributor

    I Didn't say a word about you or anyone in particular . Just stating fact . No need to get defensive .
     
  9. JESUPERCAT

    JESUPERCAT No Slow Boat

    Simple question or not (as no one ever answers it). I have asked this question several times with no answers= thread locked or deleted.
    So here it is to all those so well informed. ;)
    We were told a vaccine( in this case for Covid19)is to prepare your immune system to recognize a virus as if you already had said virus. What is the positive of taking it if you are still at elevated antibodies from having it over a year ago? Could you do harm to what is already stored naturally?
    As Larry said get your information from your doctor .... I did 3 of them with almost no deviation in answers. It was not what a few of you would expect :D so I took what my respiratory dr advised. :D now I can breathe easy. Well not really because I still have a pretty bad lung condition :eek:.
    Anyway who will step up to see if you match my dr's advice?
    Anyone?

    JW's answer would be the best written as he thinks about his topic with research points included:). So with that said; Jim give a few here a chance to answer.

    Nekkid hoping you and your wife are doing better today. That goes for the others here that have or had covid.
     
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  10. 2manybuicks

    2manybuicks Founders Club Member

    I was in a US facility (which shall remain nameless) with 1,500 or so employees about a month ago.

    Asked my guide what the vax status was.
    He said virtually everyone was vaxxed because:
    1) Management really pushed it.
    2) 4 guys died before the vaccine was available.

    So having a known co-worker offed seemed to drive the message home.

    3 or 4 guys get offed at 300 5-person businesses, it is personal for only a few of the 1500. The skeptics stay skeptical.

    3 or 4 guys get offed at 1 1,500-person business, it is personal for all 1,500 of them. The skeptics convert quickly.
     
  11. HotRodRivi

    HotRodRivi Tomahawks sighted overseas

    Vax or no vax your still gonna get a handshake greeting and be welcome company. Im not vaxed and wont be. Ive had the origional and the new recipe. The origional gave me 1 day of ache body. No fever or anything. The new recipe gave me all the cycles of a cold for a day each but the last cycle being a lung butter wad ounce a day for 3 weeks. First cold in yrs. My house and car are a no mask zone. Unless thats what you want to do. I refuse to mask. I dont like gaven greusom telling me i have to do anything. I agree with common sense. Stay 6 feet away. If your suck stay home. Dont lick your fingers. I think the hostility from the vaxed is due to the fact that they realise they are followers and just jumped off a cliff.
     
  12. knucklebusted

    knucklebusted Well-Known Member

    The mRNA therapy (which is not a vaccine in the classical sense) is to prime the immune system to react against the virus by introducing an artificial substance that resembles a part of the virus scientists believe will elicit the correct response.

    IF you have had the virus and lived, your immune system already has the necessary information to fight off the virus the next time.

    The fact that vaccinated people can contract another variant says that artificial immunity is certainly not better and may be inferior to naturally acquired immunity.
     
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  13. HotRodRivi

    HotRodRivi Tomahawks sighted overseas

    Ive heard it put as how do you want your imunity? By getting the virous and surviving. Or getting the vax. Neither is 100% it is a personal decision, and should be confidential. Will it all be forgotten in 2 yrs. I hope so.
     
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  14. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member

    I like reputable sources,

    https://www.jhsph.edu/covid-19/arti...s-offer-better-protection-than-infection.html

    https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases...th/herd-immunity-and-coronavirus/art-20486808
     
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  15. 2001ws6

    2001ws6 last of the v8 interceptors

  16. JESUPERCAT

    JESUPERCAT No Slow Boat

    Larry I'll look at those links later. But as Greg wrote above about his info. That is what I'm referring to not just links from the web.
    Research I did last year on the web that was valid at the time, I am not able to locate now?o_O
     
  17. Quick Buick

    Quick Buick Arlington Wa

    An elderly woman approached the teller in her local bank and asked to withdraw ten dollars.
    The teller responded; “ No maam, I can’t do that. Bank policy dictates that withdrawls under a thousand dollars must be made at the ATM just inside the lobby.” And pointed to the machine across the bank.
    The woman smiled, handed him her bankbook and requested to withdraw a Thousand dollars; “In ten dollar bills, if you please.”
    It took some doing, but after retrieving the money and counting it all out to her, he pushed the stack across the counter and smileing, he said; “Here you are maam. Will there be anything else?”
    “ Yes.” She replied, taking a tendollar bill from the top of the stack and pushing the remainder back aross the counter, she said;”
    I’d like to deposit ninehundred and ninety dollars please.”
     
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  18. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member

    First, the mRNA vaccines are vaccines in the classic sense, they just employ a different method. They do prime the immune system to react to the virus without giving you the disease. Vaccines have done this in the past by exposing your immune system to a weakened or inactivated virus, or even a related virus (example:small pox vaccine). This method of making a vaccine is a lot slower, and more expensive to make. To understand how mRNA vaccines work, you first have to understand what mRNA is, and it amazes me how many people get that wrong.

    mRNA is in EVERY cell in your body. The cell uses mRNA to maintain itself. Cells need to make proteins to survive, everything from cellular structures to enzymes for metabolism. They are all complex proteins. mRNA has NOTHING to do with DNA. DNA is in the nucleus of the cell surrounded by a very selective membrane. The cell regularly transcribes the DNA via an enzyme to sections of mRNA which leave the nucleus. In the cytoplasm of the cell are organelles called ribosomes. Ribosomes are protein factories. mRNA is the blueprint for various proteins, and when they encounter an mRNA strand, they make the protein that is coded for by that mRNA strand. After the mRNA is used, it degrades and is recycled by the cell. mRNA is made up of 4 bases, adenine, cytosine, uracil, and guanine. Think of them as A,C,U, and G. It is the order of these bases that make up the individual coding. Scientists have learned how to synthesize a mRNA strand. They can make that mRNA strand once they know the correct coding for a protein. It is cheap and fast to do this. Since the entire genetic code of the Covid virus has been known from the earliest days of the pandemic, scientists picked a harmless part of the virus, and encoded an mRNA strand for that part, the spike protein. mRNA research is not new, it's actually been around since the late 1980's. The biggest problem they had was getting it into cells intact. The strand is actually very fragile, hence the refrigeration requirements. With the entire world working on this, the problem was solved by encasing the mRNA in a glyco-lipid to get it through the cell membrane. Once in the cell, your cells make the spike protein which exhibits itself on the outside of the cell. Your immune system cells recognize it as foreign, and manufacture anti bodies against it. At the same time, white blood cells known as B and T cells are programmed to recognize it in the future, and now, you have immunity without getting the disease. Again, this is not new as there have been mRNA vaccines for Zika and Rabies. It also holds great promise in cancer research. If you can program the immune system to recognize cancer cells as foreign, the body will cure itself no matter where those cells hide. mRNA technology promises to revolutionize medicine. Scientists think it may be possible to immunize against several diseases with one vaccine. Cheap, fast, easy to make, HOMERUN!

    Second, some vaccinated people can indeed contract the Covid virus. That is referred to as a Breakthrough Case. Go to a state's webpage and look at the numbers. Compare the breakthrough cases to the TOTAL number of vaccinated people. It figures out to 1/10th of a PERCENT. It is likely higher than this because many people with these cases may not even realize that they are infected, or get tested with mild symptoms. The fact remains that more than 99% of vaccinated people avoid getting extremely sick, going into the hospital, getting intubated, and dying ALONE.

    All of you who don't want the vaccine, that's fine with me. I really am up to my chin with the total nonsense flying around out there from people who think they know, or don't care to know anything. All you are doing is prolonging this pandemic and endangering us all. You want to roll the dice? Fine. You might be fine, or you might not. That ignores the many cases of recovered people who continue to have symptoms a year after their recovery (Google Long Covid). This virus is insidious, it attacks virtually every part of your body. People come out of it with long term lung, heart, or even anoxic brain damage. Talk to a respiratory therapist, Pulmonologist, or an exhausted frantic nurse about this. Worried about the long term affects of the vaccine? Really? What about the long term affects of contracting the virus in the natural way?

    Again, want to roll the dice? Go right ahead, your choice.
     
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  19. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member

    All I saw from Greg is a virtually anonymous blog. That's your reputable information? BTW, I couldn't verify any of the information in it. I'm not surprised you can't locate it. I never have trouble finding the Mayo Clinic, or Johns Hopkins.
     
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  20. pbr400

    pbr400 68GS400

    [QUOTE="knucklebusted, post: 3221719, member: 3020"

    The fact that vaccinated people can contract another variant says that artificial immunity is certainly not better and may be inferior to naturally acquired immunity.[/QUOTE]

    I’d rather get Delta as a breakthrough and have the typical cold symptoms than have nearly died from either one in hopes of natural ‘better’ immunity.
    Patrick
     
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