What cam to use in my rebuilding ?

Discussion in 'Small Block Tech' started by nilss0n001, Mar 21, 2014.

  1. alec296

    alec296 i need another buick

    I would get pistons elsewhere as northern did not list the high compression version. They will give you about 7.7 to 1 . Use the replacement hi compression pistons which are rated at 10 cc dish with 1.835 compression height which is .030 taller that the standard 8 to 1 piston. Try to get block heads mating surface shaved .020. With a .043 head gasket it will net about 9.5 without any change to head.
     
  2. Fox's Den

    Fox's Den 355Xrs

    There is really no sense in putting the 50# stock intake on the engine. Get the TA intake and then you will ready for future upgrades in the engine. Plus with the TA intake you can use any carb you like. No, the intake does not give any more power than the stock intake but why try and put a 50# part back on when you can put an 8# part on the engine and take the extra weight off.

    The TA intake will also let you use different styles of spacers to alter the power of the motor, you can't do any of this with the stock intake.
     
  3. sean Buick 76

    sean Buick 76 Buick Nut

    If a person specifies they want the high compression pistons northern will send them in the kit...
     
  4. Fox's Den

    Fox's Den 355Xrs

    I am really quite blown away that TA does not list Forged Pistons for the 350 anymore. I got them in 1994 and we can't easily get them today.

    See, if you guys started building those 350's in 1994 we may have had those aluminum heads sooner, oh yeah the intake too, and maybe more availability of parts. Which looks like (sp intake) will the first part to be made.

    You all better start getting those motors built and get out there to the track or at least the streets and show them 350's have more than little walnuts. I have only been sitting here for the past five years bitchin about it.

    Before the parts we want do not get made.

    Quit foolin around dimmit. :rant:

    On the lighter side;


    212 cam best starter street cam, and would probably kick some real butt with the Alum heads. It may not be enough for the SP Intake but the alum heads would be the ticket with the TA stage 1 DP intake.
     
  5. sean Buick 76

    sean Buick 76 Buick Nut

    As always you have excellent insight to the Buick 350 and yes you are right we need to quit messing around and get these 350s together... I agree 100% about the TA212 cam not being the best for the SP intake however for the street it is tough to beat!
     
  6. Fox's Den

    Fox's Den 355Xrs

    Well I hope it worked and you will put that wrench in your hand instead of that beer. I know how you guys drink up there LOL. I just had to go out and burn some money on a new garden tractor. This one will help us with the mowing and the gardening. JD X534 4 wheel steering the thing rocks. This will cut into some extra money I was saving up for some kind of parts hoping maybe a intake from TA in the future, hint hint TA.

    A good solid 10.0 or 9.8, ok lets go with 9.8-10,25 comp for that 212 cam and on the street it could be a real monster with some alum heads and intake. But would heads say, that flow at 300 would that be too much for the cam or would the engine not care about that and just go to the cams max hp potential.

    Oh heck, just put it at 10.25 and pop in a gallon or two of some race gas and keep that timing up. I bet a 50 shot of nitrous would knock off a 1/2 sec and add 7 mph. I am going to try just that this year sometime.
     
  7. sean Buick 76

    sean Buick 76 Buick Nut

    I am pretty sure that with the alum heads the 212 cam and dual plane intake would be great on the street! Yes a roller cam would be ideal but swapping out the heads will gain huge hp and tq over the stockers and eliminate the need to over carb the engine.

    Anyone notice that a chevy 350 with afr heads can make 500 hp na with a 650 cfm holley and a buick 350 needs a 850 cfm carb to make 450 hp? The reason is that the 350 is induction challenged, the heads and intake dont flow well enough so we need to over carb them till we get the heads (or give up hp by using a smaller carb).

    I also think that the ta single plane intake matched with bone stock heads, 10:1 compression and a tA 310 cam will be the hot ticket for a low buck high rpm street strip car.

    Use both the new intake, new heads, 10.5:1, and a roller cam and see some serious numbers without power adders. Add a power adder to the same combo but 9:1 and its time to build the car to handle 800 hp.
     
  8. 300sbb_overkill

    300sbb_overkill WWG1WGA. MAGA

    This combo is being proven with Jerrold's(Jstaged) son's car,but only with a duel plane intake.

    Can't wait to see how he did at the high school nationals!! (They are this month some time if they weren't rained out.)


    Derek
     
  9. sean Buick 76

    sean Buick 76 Buick Nut

    Yes, the 310 cam is OK with a dual plane but the single would wake it right up... Especially if revved to 6500 RPM.
     
  10. alec296

    alec296 i need another buick

    Assuming he is from Sweden( first post translation text) the fuel is blended different and has a high octane rating so he could run higher compression.
    I have a 310 cam with TA intake in my SP engine with a lot of porting .thinking I should shave heads more to get compression up.it never ran right. I'm changing timing chain and had just ported and shave heads .025. We will see if there is any improvement.
     
  11. nilss0n001

    nilss0n001 Member

    How much do you pay in the U.S. to bore the block?, In Sweden I pay 540$. (just curious)
     
  12. sean Buick 76

    sean Buick 76 Buick Nut

    I do not remember exactly how much my last one was I just remember the total machine shop bill was 1800 after:

    -engine disassembly , hot tank and measurement of all engine parameters
    -diagnosis of machine work required
    -squaring of the deck surfaces of the block
    -boring and honing of the block
    -align boring and honing the mains
    -index grinding the crank to obtain desired bearing clearance for mains and rod journals
    -internally balancing the rods, pistons, and crank for a SFI neutral balanced balancer and flexplate
    -new frost plugs

    and I am sure some other stuff I forgot...
     

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