Olds Show

Discussion in 'The "Other" Bench' started by MikeM, Aug 20, 2003.

  1. flynbuick

    flynbuick Guest

    He has not shown his good stuff. Still holding back on you! He is the real Dr Olds in disguise as the mild mannered Buicklawyer.
     
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  2. SmallHurst

    SmallHurst The Polyglas Pimp!

    I could put up pictures of my car, but this one will do. Check out the website and look under listings for the '69 Hurst/Olds. I can't believe that it sold for that price. I might have to get mine re-appraised for insurance. www.classicauto-sales.com
     
  3. STAGE III

    STAGE III Lost Experimental 455-4 Bolt Main Block.

    HUH????

    Fo...Fo...Fo....Fortyfive GRAND?:jd: :jd: :jd: :jd:

    Man o MAN!

    1969 Oldsmobile Hurst/Olds

    1969 Oldsmobile Hurst/Olds:
    An incredibly rare sight, this 1969 Hurst/Olds is one of just 906 such cars ever built. True "sleepers", these H/O cars started life as a Cutlass Holiday Coupe, stuffed full of a specially engineered 455 cubic inch monster motor with Ram Air (the largest available 442 engine was a 400 CID), backed with a Turbo-Hydramatic 400 automatic transmission with the mandatory Hurst "Dual Gate" shifter, and buttoned down underneath with all of the best 442 suspension, brakes, and handling options. The end result is a wicked performer with the tight ride and great handling Oldsmobiles were known for. Appearance wise, the H/O cars had a special paint scheme with "Firemist Gold" accents with black hand painted pinstripes around the perimeter over white, the famous "Mailbox" Ram Air hood scoop, special rear wing and side mirrors, custom 15x7 chromed SS II wheels with no trim rings, dual exhaust with trumpet tips and bumper cut outs ( as on the 442), gold stripes on the head rests, custom walnut trim on the dash along with a "Hurst/Olds" badge, and special decals and emblems on the exterior. It is a simply awesome package that still looks great after all these years!

    This particular car is quite remarkable in its own right. Purchased new by a Doctor in San Antonio, Texas, it is still on the original title and is a one owner car! The good doctor special ordered the car with every available option, including factory air conditioning, power steering, power disc brakes, tilt steering wheel, Am/Fm STEREO multiplex radio, and Rally Pack gauges with the Tic-Tok-Tac.This is one slick ride. A full frame off , every nut and bolt detailed restoration was completed last year, performed by a business partner of none other than Dr. Oldsmobile himself, Doc Watson. With just 50,000 original miles at the time of restoration, and having been pampered its whole life, the car still has 100% of its original sheet metal, interior, and numbers matching drivetrain. Only NOS parts were used in the restoration, with the exception of radial tires, black polygraphite bushings in the suspension, and a polished stainless steel exhaust made to the exact dimensions of the original Oldsmobile system. The entire drivetrain was rebuilt sparing no expense, with a reported $11,000 in the engine alone! This is a true #1 show car that can also be driven and is better than new in all respects. As a matter of fact, I enjoyed driving the car so much that I put on about 300 miles last weekend when I drove it to the Arnie Beswick 50th Anniversary Buick-Olds-Pontiac car show where it took 1st place in the ISCA judged show competition! Miss Hurst "Golden Shifter", Linda Vaughn was at the show and autographed the inside of the trunk lid. She just loved the car and asked three times if it could be at the Hurst/Olds Nationals this summer.

    An incredible car in impeccable #1 show condition. You will never see another Hurst/Olds in this condition with this kind of provenance ever again. If you appreciate rare and flawless low production muscle cars, don't let this one pass you by!

    $45,000 SOLD
     

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  4. Dave H

    Dave H Well-Known Member

    Another nice and very fast Olds

    Here's Rob Thomas mint 69 442 W32. 30k original miles. That's Camaro hugger Orange, car was originally silver. Many times winner at NMCA, Olds Nationals, etc. Best times in the 11.70's with a low compresion 455 on pump gas.
     

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  5. pglade

    pglade Well-Known Member

    StageIII(John)- unless the motor was a service replacement block there will be a pad sticking out of the side of the engine block at the deck on the front corner of the block (actually all 4 corners have this pad I believe as it is part of the casting process) The face of this pad is machined flat and in small letter/numbers you'll find the "numbers matching motor" info stamped into the machined surface. Unfortunately there is no equivalent info available to us on these Olds (like Sloan for Buicks) as the records for Olds' that we would like were lost in a fire.

    Good luck on running down the W30 motor-keep everyone apprised on progress/questions......we need the vicarious thrill. Patton
     
  6. Dave H

    Dave H Well-Known Member

    Just dug this one out of the basement

    This is my 44000 mile unrestored 66 442. I bought it 5 years ago with a broken piston. Chassis and underbody are all done, will be going back together as a 4 speed/tripower, but was a 4 barrel automatic car originally. Love those Buick wheels with the Olds centers.
     

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  7. SmallHurst

    SmallHurst The Polyglas Pimp!

    Hey guys, I finally dug out the CD's and here are some pictures of my ride. Right now it has about 40,000 miles on it and the A/C works fine. Best time on the quarter was produced over Memorial Day this year at Martin, MI with a 13.85 @ 99 mph.
     
  8. SmallHurst

    SmallHurst The Polyglas Pimp!

    #1

    First Picture on the farm at home.
     

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  9. SmallHurst

    SmallHurst The Polyglas Pimp!

    Second one in front of the oil shed.
     

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  10. Casey Marks

    Casey Marks Res Ipsa Loquitur

    Cool pix Rusty !!!! :TU:

    PS - Happy 33rd B-day !!!! :puzzled:
     
  11. rex362

    rex362 paint clear and drive

    let me sneak in...a question

    while the olds thing is going...:Brow:

    I have a 1970 cutlass with a 1976 350 smogger...a fella is selling me a 1969 350...with brackets and all.. carb 2 oilpan...all stock..the engine has 65k miles..motor been in storage oiled and hand spun every once in a while...have dealt with this fella in the past..his word is very good ..he pulled the engine out himself 10 years ago.....he gaurantees no oil burn or noises...

    ...the question...is $750 2 much 2 pay for it...or is that a good price...????
     
  12. STAGE III

    STAGE III Lost Experimental 455-4 Bolt Main Block.

    Nice Hurst Rusty!

    I was momentarily stunned to see another one when I clicked on the post.

    How is your's set-up option wise? Pretty much original and all?

    I'm considering selling mine right now, but need to pray on that thought a little more if ya know what I mean.

    Time will tell.

    What number is your car?
     
  13. SmallHurst

    SmallHurst The Polyglas Pimp!

    Well since you asked....

    Now listen to a story about a man named Russ and his H/O!:Brow:

    I purchased the car in Oct of 1995. The car was "original" as far as the condition. The miles showing on the odometer was 24,xxx and everything was there. The seat covers were perfect and still had the original paint on the headrest(still does). The only bit of rust was the drivers fender and it was patch panel material. It started up, ran ok, and could move itself down the road under its own power. The car originally came from John Poppel Olds in Ft. Worth. I knew the car had a history, but I did not know how much!:shock:

    In summer of 1997, the car got its new colors and I finished everything well enough that the car made the trip from Abilene, KS to Lansing, MI for the 100th of Olds and back again. In 1998, the Hurst/Olds nationals were here in Kansas City and I had contacted Tom Shaw about my car. He came back to Kansas City (he graduated from high school here) was the featured speaker at the banquet and we did the photo shoot of the car in the Argentine bottoms and on Speaker road in KC. (Was the hot spot for street racing back in the day) Was hotter than heck that day, but the cloud cover was a great filter for the photos. In 1999, the MCR issue came out, I got married and the Hurst served as the getaway car from the chapel (no harm to the car, my friends knew there would be blood shed if anything happened) and the car managed to make its way down to Dallas for the Olds Nats down there. While at the Nats, the second owner of the car, who recoginzed the car as his in MCR, contacted one of the local members there and told him to get in contact with me. I recieved his phone number and a lengthy phone conversation commensed.

    This gentleman gave me the life story of the car that he knew. The car was found behind a used car dealer in N. Texas in the late 70's early 80's with no motor and no title. The car dealer said that he would love to sell it, but since he had no title, his hands were tied. That did not stop this gentleman, as he did a title search and found the bank that still had a lein on it. They said, " we have a lein, but we had written it off years ago." He went in, paid what was left on the lein, and left with a title in his hands. As was stated, the motor was missing, so the seach began and 2 '69 H/O's were found in Houston. The good engine parts were pulled, (who knows what else) and there it sat. The guy had his own business and things went south, he sold off his other toys and this was the last thing to go. Mind you, this was in 1995 and the guy never had the motor put together! He owned the car for all of those years, but never drove it! The guy I purchased the car from slapped the motor together, but that was all.

    Currently the car has 40,xxx miles on the odometer. The car has a/c (blows cold), manual windows, p/b, p/s, 3.23 gears, and weighs in at about 4000 pounds without my lead a$$ in the seat. The first time the car went down the strip, it managed to run 15.2's at about 85-87. At Martin, it was running a best time of 13.85 @ 99mph. The car consistently gets in the 930's to 950's out of 1000 in national Olds judging. (A joke at time considering the "original" items that get knocked down) The card never had the information sent in, so it does not have the dash tag. The # on the dash tag is just the order that the postcards were recieved back at Hurst.

    Only thing I ever heard about the original owner was that he was doing time in the Iron Bar Hotel. He left his friend to take care of the car!:gt: (Some friend that turned out to be):Dou:

    Casey, thanks for the birthday wishes.!
     
  14. Dave H

    Dave H Well-Known Member

    Yeah.........................

    Looks super, Rusty. Thanks. Happy B'day!

    Then there was this day at Norwalk............................
     

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  15. STAGE III

    STAGE III Lost Experimental 455-4 Bolt Main Block.

    Happy Birthday Rusty! That's pretty cool 2 69 Hurst Olds guys with birthdays 1 day apart (mine was the 24th).

    By "number" I was referring to the transmission number since very few folks sent in the card for the dash number, which I think you mentioned had no bearing on when it was actually built.

    If your original motor is gone maybe the trans is also?

    I'm still a little new on the H/O's so I was wondering if the production number can be determined minus the special transmission number, or documentation from Hurst, or Demmer, or maybe a build sheet?

    I've been extremely fortunate with mine in that it has the complete numbers matching drivetrain, Protecto-Plate,Olds Congratulation Card,Bills of Lading from Hurst,Demmer, and the Oldsmobile Caddy dealership that sold it.

    Copies of every owners title,Hurst sales brochures,and even the original loan papers from the bank in 1969 showing his monthly payments of $69 bucks (YES, I'll take 8 please!:shock: ).
    Still has the original keys with the Cadillac crest on it (took a while to figure that one out).

    And last but not least the broadcast sheet which shows the number that followed it from it's creation at Oldsmobile, through the entire process of becoming a 455 Hurst Oldsmobile car.

    Kurt Karch at the H/O registry said it was one of the closest numbers he has seen to correspond with all the Sloan documents (my broadcast number).

    Mine is an a/c car also, with tilt,Rally gauges,3 spoke steering wheel,Wonderbar AM-FM, with rear speaker,PS,PB, Optional interior light package, plus hood and trunk lights,Olds Vanity mirror,possibly the super lift optional rear air shocks, and last but not least power trunk.

    It is going to make a very good example one day when restored but it probably won't be happening with me, as we are involved with the crippled Textile Industry down South here.

    You know this car has never even left North Carolina since sold here in 1969?I was also told it was one of the only two 69's ever sold here they were so rare.

    Unfortunately between it and my 60 Electra 225 convertible the Olds has gotta go. I hate it but I just hit the "Big 40" birthday and I am determined to reduce my stress level and a super rare and cool car with no money to work on is nothing but pure stress to me.

    Guess I need to change my "Too much is just enuff" motto to "Enuff of too much!"

    Anyhow, wish mine looked as nice as your Russ, good job:TU:
     
  16. SmallHurst

    SmallHurst The Polyglas Pimp!

    Mine still has the 'OH' trans to it. 3-spoke steering wheel, am radio, light package, and not much else. Kurt is "the Man" when it comes to the '69 H/O's.
     
  17. STAGE III

    STAGE III Lost Experimental 455-4 Bolt Main Block.

    Hats off to Kurt

    Yes Kurt sure is a good fellow. The first time I contacted him he was an unbelievable help.

    When I saw that number on that broadcast sheet I thought it was supposed to match the vin # somehow and I had a fake on my hands.

    Talk about relieved to hear back from Kurt with the good news!

    I think Kurt told me all the Transmission numbers started with 1000 and the last 3 digits told when it was made.

    Have you looked at your number?
     
  18. Joe Z

    Joe Z Well-Known Member

    Hello all.
    I attended the Pure Stocks in 96, 97 and last year with my 68 Hurst/Olds. I have got to find a way to post some pictures...
    I should add that I drove the car to the races in 96 and 97 - I put about 750 miles on the car in just one trip! The first year it was: Top off on Race Gas at home, drive to a little lakeside town of Shelbyville - which has race gas, etc.
    2nd year I transported 2-5gal jugs in the trunk - tightly sealed!
    I'd rather NOT do that again! These are the good Summit jugs w/gasketed caps. Anyway, I miss my Olds but I grew up with Pontiacs and I finally took delivery of my 69' GP 428 HO 4spd car in May. It's a great driver but in neither show nor pure stock condition. It has 5C (1975) heads on it - I run the car on 87 octane w/14 degrees of advance! Back to the Olds - it just needed to run better. Rusty, I have been trying to get in touch with your friend w/the H/O convert - my car and that 69' were once owned by the same guy; your friend may have the original bumperscoops off of my Hurst. More later.
     
  19. Joe Z

    Joe Z Well-Known Member

    Hello all.
    I attended the Pure Stocks in 96, 97 and last year with my 68 Hurst/Olds. I have got to find a way to post some pictures...
    I should add that I drove the car to the races in 96 and 97 - I put about 750 miles on the car in just one trip! The first year it was: Top off on Race Gas at home, drive to a little lakeside town of Shelbyville - which has race gas, etc.
    2nd year I transported 2-5gal jugs in the trunk - tightly sealed!
    I'd rather NOT do that again! These are the good Summit jugs w/gasketed caps. Anyway, I miss my Olds but I grew up with Pontiacs and I finally took delivery of my 69' GP 428 HO 4spd car in May. It's a great driver but in neither show nor pure stock condition. It has 5C (1975) heads on it - I run the car on 87 octane w/14 degrees of advance! Back to the Olds - it just needed to run better. Rusty, I have been trying to get in touch with your friend w/the H/O convert - my car and that 69' were once owned by the same guy; your friend may have the original bumperscoops off of my Hurst. More later.
     
  20. 84ZZ4

    84ZZ4 Well-Known Member

    I see most people in here have classic iron--but what the hell, I'll post mine too:

    The 85 442:
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    The mighty 307 HO:
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    The daily beater:
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    Fear the modified 3.8L:
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