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Discussion in 'Cars and Parts For Sale Leads' started by flattappet, Jan 25, 2024.

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  1. charlierogers

    charlierogers GSX stage 1 4 speed #149

    Originally, it was a 1 in 479 car.

    To date it has so many undocumented modifications and aftermarket parts, it could be compared to a GSX clone, if it weren't for the VIN.[/QUOTE]

    comparing it to a gsx clone is just ridicules'!!! it IS a genuine GSX period.
     
    charlierogers, Jan 26, 2024
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  2. charlierogers

    charlierogers GSX stage 1 4 speed #149

    chesapeake chris, why are you bidding on this car?
     
    charlierogers, Jan 26, 2024
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  3. ChesapeakeChris

    ChesapeakeChris Well-Known Member

    I'll take your word for the resto quality, but why doesn't the seller just post Mr. Miller's restoration information?

    "Just look at the pictures of the car?"
    I can create a clean GSX clone, you wouldn't be able to tell the difference...
     
    ChesapeakeChris, Jan 26, 2024
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  4. ChesapeakeChris

    ChesapeakeChris Well-Known Member

    I love you guys...
     
    ChesapeakeChris, Jan 26, 2024
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  5. 1972Mach1

    1972Mach1 Just some M.M.O.G. guy.....

    I think I heard about some guy on here (we'll call him Khris for anonimity's sake) with a rusty GS 350 convertible that has a non-original 455 built with aftermarket parts.............

    Originally, it was a GS350 convertible. But the owner prior to me decided to make changes around 2011; he wanted a track car so he had his friend, Bill Trovato at BTR Performance ( http://btrperformance.com - still in business) professionally build a 455 with 500 hp and 600 lb ft. They did a laundry list of other things to the car that complemented the drivetrain. It's 95% rust free

    So it's got 5% of the car with rust, and ain't worth jack with all those aftermarket engine parts.

    Some guys need to join the AACA and hang out there.......
     
    1972Mach1, Jan 26, 2024
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  6. Stage 2 iron

    Stage 2 iron Platinum Level Contributor

    If you do not like what you see or hear about the car, it’s real simple look for another car.
     
    Stage 2 iron, Jan 26, 2024
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  7. 1972Mach1

    1972Mach1 Just some M.M.O.G. guy.....

    I often wonder what it would be like to hang around a bunch of people that want me around about as much as a case of herpes, and like herpes to keep coming back.
     
    1972Mach1, Jan 26, 2024
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  8. Fred Hickey

    Fred Hickey Founders Club Member

    Now we're starting to make progress in the conversation.
     
    Fred Hickey, Jan 26, 2024
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  9. LSMS

    LSMS Lone Star Motorsports

    While I agree that if a potential buyer is not comfortable with a particular car, that buyer should move on, the problem is that most of the buyers on BaT do not know the details related to the significant modifications done to this car. And the reason that the buyers do not know the details is because the seller has chosen (at least thus far) to not disclose those facts even though he is aware of them. I believe in the legal word that is referred to as Misrepresentation By Omission.

    The only reason that we on V8Buick know about the modifications being discussed here is because others on this site are familiar with this car and have disclosed the known history.
     
    LSMS, Jan 26, 2024
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  10. ChesapeakeChris

    ChesapeakeChris Well-Known Member

    Again, when you can't attack the ideas, you attack the individual, huh, mullet boy.

    As stated many times over - I bought my car, eyes opened, knowing what it was. The owner gave me every bit of documentation on everything.
    I've got a 500HP, GS convertible that looks every bit as good - if not better than the GSX for sale and I bought it for around $30K, delivered...
     
    ChesapeakeChris, Jan 26, 2024
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  11. CJay

    CJay Supercar owner Staff Member


    Let's unpack this...

    It was common for muscle cars to get run hard and put away wet back in the day. Many of them blew up by the mid 70s. So it's not surprising to find a stage 1 missing its engine. You never bought a "roller" GS? Yeah, no SS block. Ok, adjust your offer.

    When you rebuild an engine, you use....gasp....aftermarket parts like a cam, bearings, pistons, bearings gaskets etc.

    My GSX has its original engine, but I bought it knowing the 246 carb and 2016 dist were missing. I adjusted my offer to reflect that. That was a close to $4500 hit to aquire those parts. The original carb and dist were probably handed in as cores! Lol

    If your concerned about stage 1 heads, go there with a boroscope and verify it.

    When I buy a car, any car....I take what the seller says with a grain of salt. The car will either stand or fall on its own merits
     
    CJay, Jan 26, 2024
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  12. LSMS

    LSMS Lone Star Motorsports

    Is that a photo of the Wayne Roberts report for this GSX? If so, it seems the seller does have that documentation but has chosen not to share it with potential buyers.
     
    LSMS, Jan 26, 2024
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  13. Stage 2 iron

    Stage 2 iron Platinum Level Contributor

    I totally agree with you. The buyer needs to be self informed, due there home work, If you’re going to spend a ton of money on a car, this is not a $500 Hyundai.
     
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    Stage 2 iron, Jan 26, 2024
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  14. 446379H

    446379H Well-Known Member

    You make it sound like it’s changing a flat lol . The shop is going to charge you a LOT of money to do that because if they jack up the paint pulling the hood and fenders off and putting back on then it’s a GSX paint job.. personally I wouldn’t risk it . Just live with what it is .
     
    446379H, Jan 26, 2024
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  15. 446379H

    446379H Well-Known Member


    you’re kidding me so now documentation is bad? You’re assuming all those bidders on bat are Buick specialist or on this website. a lot of them are probably neither. Just people that collect GM muscle and don’t know. You don’t even know what # car it is . Just like GNX’s everyone wants to know what number car they have .
     
    446379H, Jan 26, 2024
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  16. CJay

    CJay Supercar owner Staff Member

    That's another option too! And if I had to pick up a phone instead of picking up a wrench, I couldn't afford this hobby! I'm sure it would be thousands at a shop. Have you watched fantomworks? Lol

    I've actually done this conversion. I put AC into a non AC car. It wasn't terrible to do. Aside from the modification to the firewall, it literally all bolts in
     
    CJay, Jan 26, 2024
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  17. CJay

    CJay Supercar owner Staff Member

    What I'm trying to say is the Wayne roberts doesn't really matter in this case. It's a GSX. The only thing the WR is going to tell you is option load, dealer which we already know and car number. Would you pass on the car because of the car number?
     
    CJay, Jan 26, 2024
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  18. 446379H

    446379H Well-Known Member

    No , sorry for any confusion. . Just using as an illustration . Historical society is providing a Lot more information than pop will . Especially laying in the grass .
     
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    446379H, Jan 26, 2024
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  19. 446379H

    446379H Well-Known Member

    Unfortunately , Dan would probably charge $80,000 to do that.

    You know we’re trying to help the seller out here.. if you look the white GSX that just sold recently it had rusted out floor / quarter panel , 20-year-old restoration, but they provided a lot of information and it got a good price. Documentation = $$ . A lot of cars ( 1971 Buicks ) Chevrolets ect WISH they could get a detailed report on their cars . This is available , why not utilize a few hundred bucks for possible thousands of return ? No brainer .
     
    446379H, Jan 26, 2024
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  20. LSMS

    LSMS Lone Star Motorsports

    Thank you for the clarification.
     
    LSMS, Jan 26, 2024
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