http://youtu.be/ELAwR4JspWA Definitely have to tune carb for the intake, only messed with air/fuel mixture screws. Didn't try to launch just floored it, not sure I can say anything until it's set up right but I'm not sure it's faster o No: But I know some video is better than none so.. Sorry if it seems slow, seemed faster driving it then the vid makes it seemo No:
Sounds good tho, what rpm is it shifting at? "Sounds" like 4800/5000 The illusion of speed is lost on any video, no biggie:TU:
I didn't look at tach, I guess It could be that low ,i doubt it though. I floor it like that pretty routinely, usually on that road i start from very bottom. Longer then quarter, I've gotten up to 120. Usually shifts by itself at 5400-5700, it gets there pretty quick lol for sure past 5200, im use to how it sounds above that point, il do another vid starting from bottom of that road i guess I'll just use the column to shift, I just personally don't like doing it that way. Also I wasent able to close my hood with k&n filter so I had to use this crappy litte 10 inch super small filter. But until i get drop base I'm screwed. maybe I'm wrong, I know it shifts quick especially when tires are spinning like that from beginning, il keep an eye on that when it shifts to 2nd. Your right it don't sound like its past 5 maybe once I'm in 3rd maybe 54-5500. Gonna mess with timing and see if it helps, then il do another one of me choosing when to shift cause that would make all the difference
Alright well.. Yes my tranny was neglecting the motor.. Or saving it depending on how you view things :Brow: I let off like a little girl cause.. Well I didn't think it still be spinning like a bowling bowl down hill In 2nd o No:.. embarrassing but never the less, you guys can witness amateur hour. http://youtu.be/rzjswpRbP5E Il get better, first time i actually tried using the column shifter :3gears:
Thanks man, I'm glad. I wasn't too happy about last vid, upping the rpm made huge difference. I need a tranny shifter.. I caant wait for the nitrous, still waiting on zex too get back too me about their nitrous plates.I'm gonna try bringing my advance in by 2500 too, minus well see if it'll help at all. Why wouldn't it ? 310 gonna pull even harder 5500 on up, that would be awesome!
So I was thinking today about the build and how things will happen when the alum heads come out, how things will change. Once heads come out and I buy them, I'd have to take out motor to put new rods / pistons in.. I mean whats the point of throwing heads on if i can't take advantage of where it would really shine? So I'm thinking with just those two things, I'm not gonna have much money left to have a shop put it together, which at this point I'd rather do myself. So ,my first question is : if I took out motor and decided to leave cam and all that alone, could I just switch up rods and pistons ? Or is there a chance they might not sit right and would have to go to machine shop anyway? I doubt heads would just be plug and play? And I also guess it would depend on rod/ piston combo. Wouldn't be surprised. I'm guessing id definitely need adjustable pushrods, id like to get compression to 10.1 also. Question 2 : if I'm gonna do this, would it be worth it to throw a new cam in since I'd already be down there? I'm thinking if I can put rods that will rev safely to 6500 plus, I'm pretty sure 284 won't be making any power up there.. Unless I use nitrous to keep it going ? How would a solid cam do ? TA_112S-350350S.480"-228'/.510"-240',112' Recommended for street or strip. Good all-around performance. Easy on valve train. TA roller rockers or adjustable pushrods required. Moderate idle. 2500 stall converter recommended. 9.5:1 or more CR. Idle Quality: Smooth Idle - just like stock Good Idle - mild lump, but doesnt impair driveability Moderate Idle - nice performance sound Fair Idle - heavy lump Rough Idle - very lumpy race type idle VALVE LIFT STOCK 1.55 RATIO: IN: .465 EXH: .494 TA ROLLERS 1.60 RATIO: IN: .480 EXH: .510 DURATION AT .050 IN: 228 EXH: 240 ADVERTISED IN: 276 EXH: 286 LOBE CENTER: 112 POWER RANGE: 2000-6000 Ideally Id like to throw a roller cam, but I'm sure with everything just stated above I won't have Any money to get the rockers and the lifters to complete it. So I'm not counting on that setup when heads come out. i have no where to work on car either. I'm thinking drop it in storage, pull motor, change rods/pistons,throw it back on and then slap heads on. No way it would be that simple but just brain storming. This way without changing cam or compression, it would be a Metric ton easier... Not willing to have the car down for 2-6 months either. I'm talking within 24 - 48 hours, il call in sick for that long if needed. Priorities :3gears:
When those heads do come out, do yourself a favor, have someone do some entry level porting on them. Then mill them enough to bring up the compression to at least 10:1. The head flow improvement will be a big performance boost. Back when I first bought my TA Stage 1 SE heads, I had Greg Gessler do his level 2 porting, it was maybe 300.00 more, but it brought the head flow up substantially, it's a total no brainer. At the same time, he took .040 off them so my compression went from 9.4 to 10.4. I bolted them on to my existing iron block with 118 cam and headers, and went from 13.22 @ 101 to mid 12's @ 107. added the SP1 and big 1000 carb and went a best of 12.11 @ 112. What's wrong with doing things as budget allows? Is there something wrong with delayed gratification?:grin: I later had another short block built with 0 deck, better pistons with valve reliefs, and the roller cam, and now I'm in the mid 11's. I did all of this over the period of 14 years or so. You don't need to do anything more than bolt those heads on with the SP3 and bump the compression up. Shift it lower, it will still surprise you.
If the engine is still a fresh build. Have you had any oiling mods done on block? It would be a good time to do. What compression do you hope to get and maybe 413 cam?
Ahhh the voice of reason LOL alright I hear you, if thats all i gota do thats cool. I GUESS I can keep the revs under 6000o No: I just figure since the heads with flow make so much power on 350s .. And limiting factor on my rods are 450 hp or 6200 rpm, I'd hate to be right on the brink. Would just be a lot more peace of mind if I had rods that I couldn't give a second thought about is all:TU:.. And.. And.. I want to shift like gsjohnny !! Hahahaa yea the motor is still a fresh build. No I haven't, I just saw a buick 350 build where they showed all the oil mods they did.. I didn't do em just cause I wasn't aware at the time. Didn't make any holes bigger or any of that. I wouldnt want any more comp then 10:5. Id want something thats mid 11s or lower and I can still spank people on the street with and i just assumed when TA makes em that they would flow as much as they could possible make em flow? Wouldn't make sense to me if they didn't
I remember when I was younger, I wanted to set the performance world on fire with one fell swoop:laugh: My wallet and the limited amount of sense I had wouldn't let me. I made one or two improvements at a time and enjoyed them just as much. There are always things you want to do to your car. It's OK to dream big, that's more than half of the fun. A mid 11 second car is real fast on the street. It will get you into more trouble than you want to experience. You won't have any traction whatsoever on the street. I know lots of guys love street racing. It can change your life forever in an instant. It's not worth it. I carry my timeslips with me. When I get challenged, I pull them out and say, you got one with a lower ET? If so, you win, if not, go get one and come back.
Assumption is the mother of all screw ups. The BBB aluminum heads with a good valve job will out flow the best iron ported heads. If Mike makes the 350 heads like the big block heads, they will outflow the iron heads easily. There will also be plenty of room for porting improvements.
Your peeing on my oak wood fire Larry :spank: :laugh: I hear ya, it's just if I do a rebuild again I want it done Right. After this last one, i realized how much i messed up on. Oil mods to block/ compression/ and rods. Rods bugged me the most cause I had the money to buy whatever rods I wanted. Even 73 later rods would have bin fine, 600 hp or more limit is way more then enough. if I do this again, when it's done i don't want to be like I should have done this. All or nothing.I don't really street race. Was just saying. I grew up in the city, I know all about kids losing their lives before it's even blossomed.
Your engine seems very stong from the video. Why not find a short block to work on slowly as you can and keep the engine in it for now so you have little down time.
Hey, if you got lots of money to burn, have at it. Do you?:grin: In order to get 600 HP from a 350, you'll have to spin it pretty high, or boost it. If it's a street car, I'd just bolt the heads on with an SP3.
Yea I might just do that, il hit junkyard see if I can find a couple. No Larry i don't, but now that I'm getting used to living alone I'm understanding what things I can skip out on too drive the car :TU: between that and looking into selling my body ,I should have just enough to do another rebuild :Brow:. I don't want 600 hp, was just stating that the 73 rods could go to that extreme which would be great. 500 rwhp would be sweet eventually. If money wasn't a factor, thats about where id want to be. Don't know what that would translate in the quarter but whatever. Its a street car but I want to drag race it to show some of these guys what it'll do. Last couple builds i read on.. never made it too track. Blue balled me like 3 different times reading some of those threads lol
Yup, all things in moderation. live within or below your means. Save some, spend some, invest some. That has served me well.
Boost or nitrous, those are on the cheaper side if you want a quick street strip car. To do either setup correctly will definitely take some cash and a good shortblock If you want it to live. There are videos out there of a 350 Buick in the 12's with a 175 shot https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1bnoV8yP5Hs
Thats the plan, I'm doing nitrous regardless with what I got now once I got everything perfect. Once the heads come out, il just ask TA to port em out completely before they even ship it to me. Along with taking some off of the heads for higher compression. Depending on where it lands in the quarter, I'd still want to keep a 100 shot on it. Either way, I'm gonna have too put new rods. I'm not gonna risk the whole motor just to cut some corners when I do it. New rods/ pistons+fully ported heads+nitrous= all I want to do with that car. I would think that would be atleast mid 11s, which I'm ok with. :kodak: Take couple pics/vids. Then off for boots and a nice fat rifle :blast:
