1964/65 SBB 4 speed information

Discussion in 'U-shift em' started by 64G-lark, Oct 30, 2008.

  1. 64G-lark

    64G-lark Well-Known Member

    Sorry, Been busy with projects and have not checked into the thread in a while.

    Skylark-65
    Nice looking car! All of the bushing and pins can be replaced in that shifter.

    skylark64fishy3
    I think you can run all of the four speed parts with the 455. I have seen a 64 with a 455 transplanted in and the owner claimed he used all of the 300 four speed parts without issue. Not sure it will survive the torque for long.

    64skylark4speed
    There were 1954 Skylarks built with 4 speeds in 1964 excluding the convertables. See post 35 in this thread for more details.

    GGreen289
    I have not tried it myself but I understand the pedals themselves are basicly the same.
     
  2. crewser

    crewser Platinum Level Contributor

    Great post with lots of information. Think I found all the info I need except what flywheel can be used with the 300 motor? The only thing I can find is an aluminum with a steel insert.
    Any info would be greatly appreciated.

    Jim C
     
  3. Clanceman427

    Clanceman427 Hardtops need not apply

    Hi there, I bought 64-66 Chevelle pair of pedals (clutch and brake) off Ebay for my car. My car was automatic originally. Sorry I didn't take pics at the time, but I remember the Chevelle brake pedal did not have the thin sheetmetal "backstop" for the brake light switch, so I cut the original off my Buick auto brake pedal and welded it on the Chevelle brake pedal in the same location as the Buick. Might not have mattered in the long run but at the time I thought I better do it with the pedals out and accessible. I was able to use my original Buick pedal hanger, and the pin with the retention snap worked fine in the Buick hanger, and the new bushings fit fine as well.

    For some pictures see this thread below. The pedal pads are just those generic ones in the HELP section at Pep Boys, but they work great as well.

    http://www.v8buick.com/showthread.p...ing-from-The-Parts-Place-Inc-review&highlight=
     
  4. wkillgs

    wkillgs Gold Level Contributor

    The 350 flywheel will work. Has the same weight pocket cast into it as the 300/340 flywheel.
    The 300/340 flywheel does have holes drilled around the perimeter to allow insertion of pins to fine tune the balance. The 350 version doesn't have those holes.
    I used a 350 flywheel behind the 300 in my '66 Special, works great.
     
  5. crawdadman

    crawdadman Well-Known Member

    I may be posting in the wrong thread so I apologize, but I have been following this 4-speed thread because have a 64 skylark that came factory equipped with a 4-speed. It is denoted on the trim plate, and this car is a convertible. I am curious about the motor, the numbers match the title and I believe it is a factory high performance 300 motor. It has alum heads, manifold and 4 barrel. I found a stamp on the block that has a K P stamping followed by three numbers, am curious about the cam that came in this motor, I have been told by a mechanic that it has high perf pistons, so with all that I am wondering what cam they put in these motors. This car has the console shown in an earlier pic, along with a separate console I have seen called a ironing board. I referred to your post number 35 and am going to print for my records, any idea how many of the 752 convertibles produced with a 4-speed might have had the high perf option. Thanks so much.
     
  6. crewser

    crewser Platinum Level Contributor

    Hey Walt,
    Thanks for the info I will see what I can find.

    Jim C
     
  7. 64G-lark

    64G-lark Well-Known Member

    Crawdadman,
    Unfortunately in this time frame Buick didn't keep records well enough to get a breakdown to that level. There were 752 convertable Skylarks (model 4367) with four speeds, all of those had 300 engines. They didn't break it down to 300/310 (2 barrell) vs. the 300/355 (4 barrell power pack) . Model 4067 is the convertable Special and it could have had the V6 or either of the two 300 engines. They made 231 of them with four speeds.
    The KP code you noted is the 300/355 engine. The only differences between it and the 300/310 was the intake, carb. and pistons. The cam was the same. The four speed cars did have a different carb model with the difference being the jetting.
    Four speed cars that came with the 300 cid 355 Wildcat (355 ft lbs of torque 250 Horse Power Pack) came equiped with a Rochester 4 jet carb #7024045 . Automatic cars have #7024044
     
  8. crawdadman

    crawdadman Well-Known Member

    Mark,

    This carb has the 7024045 tag on it, and there is an L3 and 22 on the tag also, also has alum heads, was that stock with the power pack or was that an upgrade maybe ?, the block is iron. Thanks
     
  9. 64G-lark

    64G-lark Well-Known Member

    Crawdadman,
    In 1964 all versions of the 300 V8 had the iron block and aluminum heads. Sounds like everything you have is correct for the car.
     
  10. crawdadman

    crawdadman Well-Known Member

    OK thank you!
     
  11. crewser

    crewser Platinum Level Contributor

    OK so I am confused. Nothing new.
    I am trying to find a flywheel for a 65 Buick 300. When I search for a 350 flywheel the options either ask for 153 tooth ring gear or 168 tooth ring gear.
    I counted the teeth on my flex plate and it counts 160. I am getting ready to put a 4spd Muncie in and have everything but the flywheel.
    Any help would be greatly appreciated.

    Thanks
    Jim C
     
  12. Clanceman427

    Clanceman427 Hardtops need not apply

    Jim many of the parts stores like NAPA incorrectly list Chevrolet parts even though they say they are Buick parts. Best to buy new from our vendors here or fine used parts here on V8buick. I bought a used 350 sbb flywheel from a member here and had it resurfaced, works great. I will say that I was able to use a 10.5" clutch pressure plate and throughout bearing from Napa but had to source a used sbb clutchfork from a member here but again it works perfect for being used.
     
  13. crewser

    crewser Platinum Level Contributor

    Hey Kevin,
    Thanks for the info, guess I am on the hunt again.
    Jim C
     
  14. wkillgs

    wkillgs Gold Level Contributor

    Buick 300 and 350 flywheels have 160 teeth.

    The aftermarket ones INCORRECTLY listed for the Buick 350 include the Luk LFW131 (153 teeth), and the Pioneer FW-100 (168 teeth).
    Those fit the GM 'corporate' 350 engine... in other words, Chevy small block.

    TA Performance has new flywheels for the 300/350. They're steel billet and cost is $315.
    http://www.taperformance.com/products.asp?cat=59
     
  15. crewser

    crewser Platinum Level Contributor

    Hi Walt,
    Thanks
    I saw those on TA Performance last night. If I can't find a used one that's probably the way I will go.

    Jim C
     
  16. crewser

    crewser Platinum Level Contributor

    Hey guys you are all a wealth of knowledge. I found an original flywheel in great shape, Now am looking for a clutch fork. Original part # was 1363719. Any suggestions on what else might work for this.

    Jim C
     
  17. Clanceman427

    Clanceman427 Hardtops need not apply

    Hi guys, does anyone know: could you order a 4 speed manual trans in a 1964 Special/special Deluxe? And if so, could it be a bench seat or did it require bucket seats? And could you even get bucket seats as an option for 1964 Special/Special Deluxe? I can go a couple different directions with my car but if there's a way to replicate a true 1964 4 speed bench seat combo I'll try to replicate that with my car.
     
  18. Clanceman427

    Clanceman427 Hardtops need not apply

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