Big Chief heads for big block Buick

if you change everything about the heads block and whatever else you can no longer call it a buick so just build a billet pro mod engine and call it a day. mine takes buick everything, except crank journal size

 

What would you call it if you had a Tomahawk?

 

I have a block but is stock cam size, stock deck height, all of your stock parts will bolt right on, even your stock rocker arms, timing chain, intake, If you completely redesign the head or whatever and it no longer has any buick anything how can you say its a buick my engine is stronger than a stock block but it is still 99% buick.......just went 6.83 on sunday.

 

So your saying gm chevrolet is not atrue chevy anymore? I hate to call bs but technology changes. A bbb with raised ports is not stock any more. see anytime you change factory settings like port location or weight then it is no longer stock or what ever you want to call it. so is your engine have factory numbers right along with factory heads, what about the rods and crank. buick did do some experimental cylinder heads on canted valves but it was over head cam. My cylinder head design is the same but without the over head cam. that head would be more factory then TA's stage 3 cylinder heads. That's why I contacted Mike and we talked well over an hour on this. I'm looking at performance that is beyond. what you current engine is. I did several drawings to show Mike but only sent the canted valve one to show that there is better cylinder head designs to be had and more power without power adders. Anytime you go aftermarket , your engine doesn't. know if it's ford, chevy, Pontiac ,or what ever you want to call it. Here's a prime example look at the current NASCAR chevy engine, the RO7 that engine looks like aford in all direction but, it's a chevy. now, do see every ones. point now. Don't get me wrong. your car hauls axx, but is it steel?Is it even factory floor pans? I bet it's. not or it would be illegal in nhra trim . please understand. these heads are for all out race and will out power anything we as buick lovers. ever dreamed of. I know if I had the money CFE would be making some DRCE 3 type of cylinder heads for a 50
0 cid engine to compete in nhra and it would be the first in how many years ? I wish you the best of luck in your class but I'm lookin to go way faster and heavier at the same time. twin turbos on a 528 or 496, havnt decided yet. Gary

 

Let's get logical. We still call our modified engines and cars Buick's because of the general basic design. I have never met anyone who quit calling their car or motor a chevy, ford, or chrysler because they put a cam in it that was not made or bought from the car division dealership. That would apply to bearings, pistons, rods, BLOCKS, HEADS, MANIFOLDS, ETC., ETC., ETC. Get my drift, where am I wrong?

 

Just one correction for this post(that I know of),Oldsmobile was the one with the over head cam design,not Buick.


Derek

 

Check May or June Hot Rod mag.1970, I believe it was an overhead cam Hemi type head a picture of the motor was either on the cover or inside. Not at home so can't verify the month, but it was a BUICK 455!!!! Lots of Buick test stuff and wishful thinking.

 

This one?

 

Ken,
Please. I do not believe you know what your talking about here. The head that we have been designing will feed large cubic inch engines. I am trying to design it that as cast it will work well on iron blocks with numbers over 420cfm. Maybe we will make two tools for the ports or they will just be cnc ported for the big numbers. I really would like the head to appeal to more than just the the big inch or high rpm racer. Flow boxes have been built to begin testing. Ken, also we are at the point that I need to get my Stage 6 test head back.
Folks, this is not anything like what you have seen from TA in the past, I feel most will be surprisingly pleased.

 

Thank you mike!

 

Derek, you better do some research. Buick did indeed make aexperimental canted valve overhead cam cylinder head. matter. of fact i believe it was either hot rod or car craft did the article. it was calleb Buick's back room. I'll post the month and year later for you.

 

Actually I wasn't referring to the experimental stuff I was referring to the "approved" for production stuff. Oldsmobile's 455 overhead cam engine was approved for production,Buick's 455 was approved to run a turbo forced induction system.(I think most here have seen the 4 bolt main 455 block that Buick made around 1970 that never made it to production)

The 2 companies were planning on being big players in the muscle car wars(a year or 2 to late),but both of those progams were cancelled!! The stupid gas crisis,the stupid EPA,the stupid new HP rating method....and so on forced the General and the other car companies to start making junk! The muscle car era was killed by 1972 with 1970 being the peak. Imagine if the peak was 2 years later,the engines that would of been made would of made the 1970 stuff look like a punk!

If Olds,and Buick started those programs a couple years earlier,Olds probably would still be in business and Buick might of been the corperate engine now instead of a chebby?


Derek

 

>> There it is ! My I.R. cross ram manifold,(behind the suit), for sbb/RV8. MT's Indy effort, is one piece. roverman.

 

As of late detroits muscle car era is back, camaro ss and the most recent Hellcat super charged hemi charger , 10. sec 1/4 from factory. What Im really wanting to happen is for Buick to bring back the GN, BUT only if they got there Blocks from MR. Mike T of TA Performance. That would send Mike off the charts , and he would then have the budget to really create something like the MIKE T REAL CHIEF TOMAHawk HEAD. Now thats looking forward .

 

You are very correct. if buick would heir. Mike for abuick gn or gnx engine blocks then mike can unleash. hell with anything his or anyone's idea.

 

Mike,

If anyone talking to you about these mentions AC, Power steering or a stock hood. Please hang up or walk away!

Thank you!

 

Gary, Imagine sitting in that race car, when everybody is sweating their *** off and you roll down the window to let some warm air in before you go down the strip in 8s with cool air from the vents - that would be going fast with class :laugh:

 

if you change everything about the engine that makes it hard to make power than why not just build an ajpe hemi. Im not against these changes ,but dont come up to me and tell me how fast your "BUICK" is because your kidding yourself into thinking you did somthing special, and the reality is you just removed all the buick to go fast..Because it was easier..

 

Sorry Mike I will send the head back right away. We decided to design a completely new billet head. 420 t0 450 will not feed a pro stock style or big blown motor. You are right for the appeal to the average Buick racer, they would love those heads. We are turning over 9000 rpm and have plans for a 700 to 800" motor. This will be way down the line but we need 525 just for our nostalgia motor. PM sent.

 

Nice Gary :TU:

It reminds me of the Powercruise event I attended earlier this year, where the promoter at the driver briefing said do NOT stop anywhere around the track, because guys were stopping so they could apply the brakes to get the rear wheels spining to do a skid (Skids are allowed and encouraged). He then said, if you need to apply the brakes to do a skid, you shouldnt bloody be here :Brow:
Cheers