VERY Disapointed!

Discussion in 'Small Block Tech' started by Cali72's, Apr 21, 2009.

  1. Cali72's

    Cali72's Well-Known Member

    Cool im looking at these proform carbs some look nice. Yea thanks for the help man my dream was to hit high 12's with this 350 all motor then throw some juice in for 11's but im starting to think that isnt possible now:spank:
     
  2. monetpit73

    monetpit73 big john

    never know. bigger cam, slicks, juice, i can see low 12s with tuning. that where its at.later bro need of sleep. chat soon:3gears: :3gears:
     
  3. Cali72's

    Cali72's Well-Known Member

    later bigger cam I agree with that I am starting to beleive that I wasted my money with the comp kit did not know what I was doing when I bought it in 05 and didnt really want to buy a whole new setup when I rebuilt the engine in 08
     
  4. 1967GS340

    1967GS340 Well-Known Member

    Yep, I got to say the best way to make your small block tear up the 1/4 is to put a big block in it's place.
    As for the bottle, ever since I saw the pictures of the hood and the top of the engine blown off, it doesn't sound as good. The valves are a mechanical device and all mechanical devices fail.
    More cubic inches plus more air and fuel equals more better. It's basic first grade math!
     
  5. Cali72's

    Cali72's Well-Known Member

    :ball: not enough money for a 455 to do it right
     
  6. 1967GS340

    1967GS340 Well-Known Member

    Yep, I've got a 340. It's a fun car, but I can't run with the big dogs. I'm either going to build a big block car, or get a much smaller car (like a falcon) and build the heck out of a small block.
     
  7. nekkidhillbilly

    nekkidhillbilly jeffreyrigged youtube channel owner

    dont forget 6 gears vs 3 thats a big advantage
     
  8. Lightningbird

    Lightningbird Well-Known Member

    That's stupid!!! It's no longer a small block. This entire section of the board is dedicated to the SBB and it disgusts me that you see crap like this in this section...you should be banned.
    The things that are killing this dude is the 3200 lbs curb weight of the mustang compared to his 3800. It needs 6 gears cause the 350 Buick has more torque at a dead idle than the 4.6 at it's optimal bizillion RPM. Look...You need to spend some time with the carb...you need at least 750 CFM, there are 800 CFM Q-Jets on Ebay that have been refurbished. Have at one. They are half price of a Holley. Spend some serious time building an advance curve that has all timing in at 2000-2300 RPM with total of 33-34 degrees. I agree that the cam needs to go, you need a TA 212 so you can use that LOW END GRUNT to get your portly A body moving, when compared to that Mustang.
    Even that 2001 mustang has a weekness....it's got a turd 4.6 in it. They Suck!!!! He can make some good HP but the car is really too heavy for the lack of torque. His gear multiplication is the only thing going for him. Ford recalled these cars cause they were under powered. Tell him to put that in his pipe and smoke that!!! If he was a real car dude he would have bought a 2003 or 4. He got the 2001 for a good price cause Ford damn near had to give them away cause no one wanted em after they "mis-rated" the HP by 30.
    Take 'em to the bracket races and see who the last man standing is..... guarantee that buick would kick his ass 6 ways of sunday. There is ALOT of power to be gained just with a timing curve and dizzy. What is the exhaust system on your Buick? I think there was a vid???? Can't remember.
    Is your 10:1 pistons a true 10:1 when in your motor? Is the cam killing all the compression? Have you checked your static compression ratio vs your dynamic compression ratio? That may be the issue with that cam, and something else would make the biggest difference!!
     
  9. mhgs

    mhgs it just takes money !!

    I still have that 310 cam and lifters for sale........these guys are right, I will tell you that with the 310 I was making alot more power than what it sounds like you have. it would be a TOTALLY different car with a bigger cam and carb together. The driveability will change but it sounds like thats what you want
     
  10. Justa350

    Justa350 I'm BACK!


    I would like to nominate you for President of the SBB section!
     
  11. Cali72's

    Cali72's Well-Known Member

    :gp: :gp: Thanks for the advice on man and thanks everyone else who gave me some advice. I have hooker super comp headers and 3" x-pipe and flowmaster 50 series.Im playing with the distributor today after I finish the rear end on this 91 5.0:rant:. I was looking around on the forums and other sites.Ive narrowed it down to a rebuilt q-jet a demon 750 that my friend has on his 70 cutlass s that he will sale me or a new proform 750. I want a new cam but I wont have the funds for a new one until maybe the first or so any suggestions I was thinking of maybe getting a quot from comp on a custom grind or maybe gettin that Ta 310 one. On a good note I did destroy a 89 mustang today on the way to the shop he has about 5k into the engine supposedley.Long story short we got pulled over his car got towed and mine did not I was wearing an "operation Iraqi freedom veteran" shirt and the cops said my car was to nice to go in the lot.

    Heres the thread with the video to my carhttp://www.v8buick.com/showthread.ph...ight=video+car before I rebuilt the rear
     
  12. Cali72's

    Cali72's Well-Known Member

    If I had the money I would meet you half way today to get it off your hands.
     
  13. Justa350

    Justa350 I'm BACK!

    So, I'm thinking you should go with the bigger Q-Jet, and get that thing's timing dialed in. The Q-jet will give great off idle punch, and has very smooth secondary engagement. You can get a lot of voilence out of the timing. Mine likes 28 degrees all the time (because of the turbos).

    Also, get a wideband and check the jetting with the timing. Cars will ping too lean, or too rich, throwing off how much timing you think it wants.
     
  14. sean Buick 76

    sean Buick 76 Buick Nut

    Like the others are saying, get a 750-800 cfm carb and get things tuned.... Once you get your secondaries coming in properly witht he right size carb you will be running faster! Also totaly agree with the others about re-curving the dist.... At very least get the crane adjustable vac. advance kit that comes with the lighter springs for the mech. advance. As stated once you get all 34 degrees of total timing in by 2200 rpm you will feel better power.
     
  15. sailbrd

    sailbrd Well-Known Member

    Don't feel bad. My BBB was wipped at the track by a supercharged Cobra, it was a long way from stock though.
     
  16. Ken Mild

    Ken Mild King of 18 Year Resto's


    Don't you have to be careful you don't use too high a stall converter? Can't it smoke a tranny if you have too much stall?
     
  17. sean Buick 76

    sean Buick 76 Buick Nut

    The main thing with a high stall converter is making sure you do not drive onthe highway at too low of an rpm or the slippage in the converter will cause too much heat and can damage the trans. Always use a good trany cooler and make suer your rpms are close to the stall converter rating on the highway preferably above that rpm.
     
  18. jadebird

    jadebird Well-Known Member

    It surprises me how low of a stall most of the SBB guys are using. I know it's not a Chevy, but even the BB guys typically use a 3000-3500 stall on a hot street build, with 3.42-3.73's. Why wouldn't you give it a little more cam and more stall?
     
  19. sean Buick 76

    sean Buick 76 Buick Nut

    many of us use cams that pull from 2500 so we really do not need a higher stall... I plan to use a Switch Pitch th400 trans in my trubo car with a 4000 high stall and 1500 low stall, then a 3.42 gear (this way I can leave the line at full boost but cruise the hwy at low rpm).
     
  20. jadebird

    jadebird Well-Known Member

    I get what you're saying...
    I guess my question is, if you're looking to make a hot street-strip car, why not move up to a bigger cam and a higher stall. You'll get more HP and a harder launch. The BBB isn't a high-RPM engine either, and it works well in that motor. You have the head flow potential to support a bigger cam, so why not go that way? I think your build is the norm, rather than the exception; just wondering why that is.
     

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