Wow...been a while since I posted on this thread...guess it's time for some updates. Got the motor in now, and bolted up to the trans bellhousing and the motor mounts are bolted up too, using the V6 mounts* As of now, the starter is bolted up, and got a new fuel pump that has the correct "2 feeds" on it-one that goes from the pump to the carb. and one that goes from the fuel tank to the pump. Did any one who did this swap run into any power steering pump problems? I will probably have to get a '70 350 steering pump bracket to bolt up correctly w/ my '70 block, although I am not sure if it will work or not, beings that I have a '76 pump, I don't know why it wouldn't work but i'm just not sure??? o No: If anyone else has any suggestions for me on this, I would greatly appreciate them :TU:
if you left the v6 pump still connected to the gearbox just use the v6 setup.if not use the v6 setup anyways. andy
Well, the steering pump bracket that I have is too short, meaning that the bolt holes won't line up w/ the block, also meaning that I cannot bolt the power steering pump up...so I don't think I can use the V6 setup, the way it is! Edit: I recognized after re-reading my previous post, that I had the fuel pump mentioned in the paragraph as the steering pump. OOPs, the fuel pump is bolted up already and should work fine. My main concern is the steering pump...since the bracket bolt holes won't line up w/ the holes in the block.. o No:
do you have a pic of the power steering and the part that doesnt line up in 76 the v6 and 350 brackets are identical and some are actually marked as such. the 350 stuff should work also i used a 70 engine in my 79 with 79 regal brackets but the 70 engines did use a short waterpump you would need to use the v6 waterpump(long) , water pump pulley and crank pulley. andy
I went to the local junkyard today and retrieved a pwr. steering setup off of a '70 skylark. This setup will work I'm sure. There is quite a difference between the mounting hardware. For instance, here is a pic of the '76 pwr steering bracket...
The '70 setup is a 3-piece setup. I am not sure if the v6 is a 3 piece or not..because if it is, then I am missing the pieces...but as you can see from the pic of the '76 bracketry, the holes are cut differently in it, so it bolts up to the head differently than that of the '70 setup. Here is a pic of the '70 bracketry:
that will work but the v6 pic showed just the pump bracket and not the bracket that bolts to the head that would be the difference andy
Thanks for the replies, Andy. Well, I guess w/ '70 bracketry, it might look like it belongs anyway, although I know if I did use the v6 brackets, it wouldn't look out of place if it bolted up, but I think these pieces might look better, as everything on my V6 is literally "grease bombed". Just a little bit of cleaning would be required to make these brackets look nice. Once again, thankyou. :TU:
How stupid can a person really be? ou: DUH! Was out messin' around in the garage today and found the rest of the bracketry behind the V6 lying underneath some junk! Looks like it might be just as easy/or easier to use the V6 brackets as they look like they will work. I thought I had looked behind it when I was looking for the other brackets but I guess I didnt. ou: Oh well, everyone makes mistakes. :spank: I am going to try to get as much work done on the car that is possible on this 4 day vacation for easter that's coming up in 2 days, so I will keep everyone updated on the progress. :TU:
Wow, this is bringing back too many memories of my motor swap. I won't even begin to entertain you with my stupid tricks. Keep up the good work!
Well, got almost everything hooked up now. Only have a few things left to do. For one, I must hook up the throttle. Another thing I have to do is take the exhaust off from the back and run open manifolds until I can drive the car down to an exhaust shop to have a system put on. And that's about it...but there is one thing that's bugging me...and that's the carbuerator. It has 3 thing hoses coming out, and I don't know where they go, as it seems there is no place for them to go onto....remember this is a 2v carb. o No: I can try and get pictures tomorrow, but I thought maybe someone here would already know?
Not sure but as long as one goes to the valve on the back of the intake manifold (PCV valve?), and one to your vacuum advance, you can plug the rest :TU: Edit: Well, its kind of hard to see, but this is the best photo I have of the hoses coming off the 2bbl on my old Skylark. Unfortunately, I dont have a bigger version of this pic Hopefully it will help somewhat. Uncleaned, un detailed, and mostly original 33 years after it was sent out the door.
Thanks for the quick reply! It does have 3, so I guess we know that 2 do have somewhere to go, and maybe we can figure out where the other one goes to as well. I am going to be finishing it up this weekend, so I can get it ready to be timed and then it should be back on the road again! :bglasses:
Thanks for the pic, actually that does help! I saved it and I can zoom in on it now w/ my photo software. I can see where the 2 lines in the front are going! :TU:
Question time once again... :laugh: I went out today and turned the ignition switch to see if the motor would turn over, and it did! This may not be an issue, but it's better to be safe than sorry, and this is my first time swapping in a motor, as you probably already know, LOL! :laugh: ...But, when I went to turn the motor over, the fan did not turn as the motor turned over, the radiator is full of the 50/50 mix antifreeze/water, so it's good to go, and this fan doesn't run by a belt, I actually and honestly don't know how it turns, but it does not run by belt. I can't remember wether or not the fan turned when the car was turning over, but I am pretty sure it did if I recall right. I have a pic, not sure if it will help or not but can anyone offer some info. or opinions...anything would help. Only thing I can think of is that the water pump spins the fan when the water is circulating throughout the engine, and when the water pump is pumping the water, that's what spins the fan. I probably am wrong, but that's all I can figure. Anything such as a hint, info, anything would help. Thanks Edit: by the way, from the pic, it looks like maybe the radiator hose may be holding the fan back, but it's not, in fact, wether you believe it or not, there is about an inch of clearance between the fan blades and the rad. hose. There is nothing holding it back.
Well, I know there's a belt that is supposed to connect to the snout of the water pump to turn the water pump, but for some reason it escapes me the routing of it. If no one has answered your question, I'll take a photo tomorrow when its light out (and look for myself, since I must be brain dead tonight).
