Not to mention long term durability^^My parent’s ‘69 Electra ran great when they sold it in ‘76. Their ‘76 Electra had overheating problems when they sold in in ‘82, most likely due to the pellet converter having plugged itself. (Based upon regular dealer maintenance eliminating typical causes, dealer’s failed attempts to fix the problem and knowledge of symptoms after the fact). I imagine the ‘69 rolled many more miles in its second life than the ‘76 did. And their ‘82 Coupe deVille was an emissions strangled, constipated turd when it ran ‘right’ which was not often. It probably got recycled before the ‘90s. Patrick
So folklore has the older, pre-emissions diesels being capable of better mileage that the current offerings. Any idea on what type of mileage your typical 5.9L Cummins, 6.5L Turbo Diesel of the 7.3L IDI got? I am new to diesels - 2018 L5P in a 4WD SWCC and according to the computer I am averaging 19-20 MPG. I drive 200 highway miles per weekend @ 75MPH and then about 15 miles per day of mixed driving during the week. Fuel economy drops of considerably in our cold winters but everything else does too. I am happy with the economy of my diesel and no stink or oil leaks.
Bob my 2002 F250 crewcab 2×4 auto with 7.3 gets 19-20 during our cold winter driving and 22-23 during warmer weather @ 70-75mph. Truck has 434,000 miles.
93 CDT W250 5sp 3.08 gears...... Below 75' sea level 27mpg.... above 1oo' 22-24 mpg Pulling 24 ft boat 18mpg in the mid nite run... never use 5th unless empty 93 CDT W250 5sp 3.54 gears.... 22-23 empty.... pulling boat 18-20... use 5th off and on.... 95 CDT 4WD 5sp 3.54 18-23 this truck has a mind of its own on when its going to get mpg. It could be pulling the boat and get 20 one day 18 on the way back or visa vera... could be totally empty and get 18 or 23
My 2016 2.8L diesel Colorado gets 22-23 city and 27-30 hwy...and 16-17 hwy towing my 66 Skylark to the Nats.
I disagree. I will agree that water demand has increased, but if that were the principal reason for the lowering water levels in Lake Mead, the decline in levels would have been more or less linear since about 1950 as the Population of the Las Vegas area has increased. In the chart posted by Mike Trom, you can easily see that this is not the case. The major decline started in about 2000 which is almost exactly the point where the Colorado River flow rates started seriously declining due to drastically reduced precipitation in it's source area. The raising of water levels in the Great Lakes can easily be explained by looking at precipitation rates in the watershed areas for the lakes. Climate change by global warming doesn't mean that the world will turn into a desert; it means that the climate is/will change. Some areas will get less precipitation, some will get more. There will be greater extremes in temperature, and more severe weather. I suspect that 100 years from now it will still be possible to freeze to death here on Earth.
John I guess I can say I disagree as well. You have obviously not lived out in the southwest? A reservoir(as large as this) is not for week to week as much as year to year. I have been over the dam when excess water was going over the dams spillways. Vegas was small compared to today. That reservoir is only so big. Lack of winter precipitation is huge yes but continuously building with such water issues is ignorance to the extreme. Look at Phoenix Az. Way to much growth without sustainable water resources again ignorance! They grow a great amount of produce there, that is now hampered by home development and water demands. We lived in Williams AZ, to drill a well, we had to get a permit from Phoenix. Look at a map to see how far away it is. We got snow they did not. I get my info regarding climate from my Dad as I trust his nonpartisan approach to science. Now back to New York as they have plenty of water
That might be true if it was just the population that has increased, but you have more underground sprinklers for houses, more resorts, more apartment and condo complexes, more golf courses, more water based theme rides, more swimming pools, more fountains, more water shows, more cars getting washed, more gardens, more everything using more water.
John, I agree with you that building like crazy when there is a major water problem is in fact, ignorance to the extreme. I also agree that the increasing population in both Phoenix (which recently replaced Boston, MA as the nation's tenth largest city) does have an affect on Lake Mead water levels, but we still can't get away from the fact that precipitation levels have decreased. The good news in that precipitation levels in the upper Colorado River basin are expected to increase for much of the rest of this century. The bad news is that in the Southern Colorado River basin, precip levels are expected to decrease by about 25%. More bad news is that more of the upper basin precip is expected to be in the form of rain due to higher projected temperatures. This means that there will be less gradual runoff in the spring which helps carry Phoenix and Las Vegas through the summer. Regardless of whether we believe that the decline in Lake Mead water levels is overpopulation of the area or climate change (or as both), folks there are going to have to change their habits as far as water usage goes.
