I'd like to ask you all a favor

Well, I'm not in the running for Mr. Popular anyway, so I'll be blunt:


Can we please stop hassling guys who even mention the words "Chevy Engine" when considering powerplants for their Buicks?

I'm not a fan of Chevy mills in Buicks either. But for God's sake, can we just tell the person who asks the question or brings up the possibilty about the pros and cons, and why he'd be better off with the Buick engine instead? If the problem comes down to "can the car be driven or not" and the engine choice is gonna be a Chevy or nothing, I choose the Chevy engine any day of the week. As our hobby gets more and more expensive and even reprehensible in the eyes of "enlightened" folks who wouldn't know what the dirty end of a proctologist's finger is coated with if he was to pick their nose, we sorta have to start either sticking together or begin riding the bus or driving Hondas.

In addition, it's starting to bug me that 'good guys' like the folks here can be so dismissive to these people who just ask a simple question. You don't have to like Chevy engines, but be helpful, willya? We're Buick guys and we are better than that :TU:

 

I'll think about it. OK.....thought about it........ummmm, no. :laugh:

 

Hey I'm serious here brother. We are coming off like a pack of fools and jerks. Sometimes I wonder if the image of the Buick is our own fault

 

I think you have a good point Chris, but you have to consider a few things. Buicks have always been the more expensive car than it's cheaper brother. Chevy owner's prolly think that we think we are better than they are. And let's face it, there are certainly some "snobby" Buick owners out there, I've run across a few myself. I think the irony is that now the Chevies being so popular are worth more than the Buicks are in the market, and that's quite a reversal of how it was when these cars were made.

I guess it just infuriates us as Buick guys when Chevy owner, parts guys, and machine shops act like the Chevy engines were the greastest things on earth. They were not, and had their problems just like any other brand. It just sucks when they want to take out the "inferior" Buick motor to put in a one size fits all smallblock. I HATE THAT!! :rant:

 

I think what the general thought is,if it's a Buick,keep it all Buick. A lot of us here have spent major $$$$$$ keeping our Buicks all Buick(like me). If I wanted to be the typical Hot Rod magazine or Car Craft guy,I would've put a chevy motor in it. Had I done so, my car would be worth much,much less and would've been like all the ho-hum cars out there. Since I kept the Buick engine in my car,I have a very unique automobile and one that the average person hasn't seen in quite a while.

Don't get me wrong I like chevy engines,but these engines are all too common and don't have the exclusiveness like the Buick engines.

 

You're missing the point completely, Joe.

This isn't about your personal frustrations with professionals who don't know what's what, or with parts counter help, or with Chevy guys acting superior, or anything else.

It's about an attitude that says it's fine to be dismissive or even rude to folks who come here lookign for help and who dare to suggest they might put a Chevy motor in a Buick.

It's not fine. It's not nice. It's not helpful. And it's not what we should be about. I don't mind saying it:

I feel anyone who thinks it's OK to give a guy who wonders about putting a Chevy engine into his Buick is a jerk. Put the shoe on the other foot and see how it fits.

I was new to cars once too. I had some helpful people give me a hand, not a hard time.

 

My point exactly, Larry: we have the choice to conduct ourselves appropriately :TU:

I don't really care about how many folks agree with me, you probably know better than most anyone here that I'm not doing this to get a few slaps on the back- I'm just bringing up the issue to make folks aware

Riv's doing great. I might have a chance to tune it this weekend, but the rain's not stopping here. I promise I'll have pics someday :grin:

 

I try too but its like this. If they come to a buick site to aqsk how to put a chevy motor in a buick, they need help in the common sence dept. I wouldnt ask a ford guy who to put a buick in my ford (not that I have a ford) or when I put a buick in my chevy truck I asked buick guys not chevy guys. Its about the person using their head besides a place for a hat. When the come here its begging for attention like they get. I reply the same to all of them.... and heres what I say!!

"WHY WOULD YOU ASK BUICK GUYS HOW TO PUT A CHEBBY IN A BUICK !!!!! duh!!!"

Just my opinion....dont be hatin'

 

Chris, I understand what you mean, but like Larry said, this is a Buick site and there are plenty of sites and information about chevys.Don't get me wrong,I am always willing to help anyone with info anytime. Please understand where we're coming from. Basically,it's a no-brainer to install a chevy engine in an A-body car. Parts are plentiful for these engines, and almost any parts store has parts for them. What I am saddened to see is when someone fixes his car, and then installs a chevy engine in it,it is almost like they didn't really want to go through the extra expense and effort to keep their Buick a Buick powered car. When you see something like this,you wonder if this person has a genuine pride in owning a car that is not only a Buick,but Buick powered.

I have a great deal of pride in owning Buick powered Buicks.

 

OK, if it makes you feel better, I'll be sure to be real nice and polite with sugar and a dab of ice cream on top when I tell them to go somewhere else for that info. thats allready on another 1000 boards out there.

 

So tell them that there is a million Chevy websites out there. maybe tell them what the URL of one is.

Hey, making fun of me or whatever doesn't make you right. If we are going to play that game, I will win. I'm better at making fun of people than anyone here. I can be twice as sarcastic, subtle, and cutting as any of you. But I can't recall ever actually doing it, because I show you people respect, something I demand in return. Is that clear enough? Why do I have to play the role of the grown up here?

It's wrong to give these folks a hard time and you know it, so stop defending the reaosns why you rationalise it's OK to be a jack@ss to people

 

When I first got my Riviera, I couldnt get it to run right for anything. I got so frustrated that I wanted to put a Chevy 502 in it. With the help of this website, I got my Nailhead running, and running right. Now, I wouldnt trade my Nailhead for any other motor out there.

 

And that's the way it should be. I doubt they convinced you by being rude

 

Couldn't have said it better myself!!!

Go to a chebby site and ask them about putting a 455 in a nova (spanish for "no go" :laugh: ) and then see how they respond! ou:

 

Chris, I'm right there with you man. :TU:
I consider myself a pretty die hard Buick guy. But I was also dangerously close to dropping a BBC in my tubbed 67 about a year ago. Was I thinking about doing it because it's what I really wanted? Hell no. I want a badd@$$ 455 Buick mill in my 67.
BUT.. I already have a fresh 650+ HP BBC sitting here collecting dust. It was the easy choice, and my 67 would already be at the track if I'd gone that route. But I didn't. So the car is still sitting collecting dust since I can't afford to build my dream 455 yet.

Would I have cared about the backlash I would have gotten if I'd dropped her in? Not really. The point is... I would have been enjoying my Buick! Regardless of what engine it had in it. I'd rather see a Buick going down the road with a chevy engine in it, than to see it rust away because someone can't afford a Buick engine for it.

I <s>sometimes</s> often get pretty embarassed about they way newcomers are treated if they are asking about a chevy transplant.
How many guys here are running a Ford 9" rear end in their Buick? Or a Chevy 12-Bolt rear end? Show of hands please. Please don't tell me "that's different" either. Because it's not.
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Everyone out there be very careful!


Show this man respect, grant his wishes, and do as he asks. He has now publicly proclaimed his superiority to one and all and takes his rightful place at the right hand of the internet gods. :jd:

It is time to bow down to 462CID;

are you all ready to bow? Now here we go, all at once . :moonu: :moonu: :moonu: :moonu: :moonu: :moonu: :moonu: :moonu:

 

Great point........installing a chebby is taking the easy way out......if I would have done that I wouldn't have the experience with my own car to help others. Some of the problems I fixed I had to do over 10 times and literally pulled my hair out for months to find but fixed them in the end. The chebby guys all have their own share of unique problems too.......they just have more people to help them who have been there and know what to do. :Smarty:

 

I never reply to those questions because I don't know enough technically to help. However, now this thread comes along so I can register an opinion and I will.

There are plenty of cheap Buick 350 and even 455 engines around to rebuild their cars with if that's what they need to do. I don't think it's necessary to help people screw up their car. Especially if they are asking should I or shouldn't I put in a brand X engine.

If I need a heart transplant I prefer it's from a human, not from a pig. Same sort of thing.

 

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