I have lost the rest of what little respect I had left for "gm"

Discussion in 'The Bench' started by 1972Mach1, Apr 20, 2021.

  1. 2001ws6

    2001ws6 last of the v8 interceptors

    I thought it was alcohol? :):p
     
  2. dr

    dr Well-Known Member

    This is the first I have heard of a "tail gate radio". I use my truck as a truck, I don't beat on it but I can not imagine a tailgate radio living very long.
     
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  3. 69 GS 400

    69 GS 400 Well-Known Member

    When my brother worked for a GM dealer and the drive train warranty was almost up if something major was an issue , they would take a brick and place it on the accelerator pedal and let the motor Rev until it blew. Said it payed better and also the customer was happy to receive a new motor. It was a win win situation.
     
  4. hwprouty

    hwprouty Platinum Level Contributor

    Well dammit Lucas, I was thinking about a new Tahoe in a couple years...
    Now I'm re-thinking that plan!
     
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  5. TORQUED455

    TORQUED455 Well-Known Member

    Last I heard is that the 6.2L’s had a change in the engine PDI - run @ 2500 rpm for 4-1/2 hours, if it makes it, change the oil and ship it. If it blows-up, then it gets fixed. And they may want to add the 6.6L gassers to that list. Our small town’s highway dept bought a ‘21 3500. The dealer was 3 hours away. It made it about 1/2 way back and started misfiring, etc. The dealer told the highway supervisor to get it back to them and they will fix it. Say what? So finally after some back and forth, the dealer sent a flat bed. I’m not sure why it couldn’t be fixed locally. It had a broken valve spring. They replaced one spring and were driving it back to our town and it made it about 1/2 way again and the MIL came back on but it wasn’t misfiring. They replaced a “compromised” air intake hose, and tried to deliver it again - nope. They finally determined that the intake manifold somehow melted during the first event. Holy smokes!

    Getting back to the 6.2L’s, the latest rendition used in at least Escalade now has ALL cylinders with deactivation lifters. My nephew (former GM tech, finally bailed to the indy world) has a friend at their local Caddy dealer and he is replacing cams and lifters on brand new 6.2L’s lol.
     
  6. buicksWILD

    buicksWILD Well-Known Member

    Ford made that mandatory standard equipment alllooooong time ago.
     
  7. buicksWILD

    buicksWILD Well-Known Member

    They still can't figure out the valve springs? I remember the 6.0s having a rash of bad springs years ago.

    Not to mention the active fuel management lifters that ate cams.

    Have they fixed those yet?
     
  8. buicksWILD

    buicksWILD Well-Known Member

    Had a suburban do something similar with the stereo. Class 2 data wire or something, crap i don't remember anymore.
     
  9. buicksWILD

    buicksWILD Well-Known Member

    Is GM gonna make the payment for that month its down?
     
  10. 436'd Skylark

    436'd Skylark Sweet Fancy Moses!!!!!

    They gave him a loaner. That's decent service.
     
  11. jalopi42

    jalopi42 Don't Wait

    My 89 Chevy 350 5 speed was rock solid so I traded it for an 09 crew cab 5.3 with first option 6 speed turbo hydro matic . Wasn’t a fan of the rough shifting but when I caught wind of the issues of oil consumption prior to #1 cylinder cutting loose I checked out of GM’S new truck market .. and have had great fortune with the Dodge Bros .. just my take
     
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  12. TORQUED455

    TORQUED455 Well-Known Member

    The Korean makers are having trouble too. Some of their vehicle owners with 4-cylinder engines have received recall notices for “failing rod bearings” caused by debris left in he crankshaft during manufacturing. These engines are not failing within minutes of use, but after 10’s of 1000’s of miles, so the explanation is laughable. There is no remedy yet. The dealer backlogs are many months even before the recall as engines are just not available. I recently sent one that was towed-in to the dealer with #3 rod playing peak-a-boo. Here is another one from today with #1 rod bearing that scattered it’s ashes everywhere. The bearing was completely gone, and yet the engine still ran:

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  13. Super Bald Menace

    Super Bald Menace Frame off oil changes

    Chrysler engines are just as bad, cam lobe failures left and right and tons of electrical issues.
     
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  14. Redmanf1

    Redmanf1 Gold Level Contributor

    Traded a 2016 suburban loaded with all the lane change sunroof, ect 5,3 only recall was a seatbelt Not one minute trouble with it. Now a 2020 suburban RST and hope not to run into any trouble. Have had different Denali XL and suburban's over thirty years and have been Very happy with them.
     
  15. Luxus

    Luxus Gold Level Contributor

    So for the record, ALL automakers have tons of recalls. This is a thing. So now the automakers are packing in electronics to make themselves competitive. But electronics are fickle because they are always changing. Welcome to capitalism.
     
  16. eagleguy

    eagleguy 1971 Skylark Custom

    Go Toyota Tundra before they mess them up with the new design!
     
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  17. sean Buick 76

    sean Buick 76 Buick Nut

    I’m Good with my old 6.0 LS GMC 2500. Headers, can and a tune and it’s a ton of fun and reliable.
     

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  18. Chuck Bridges

    Chuck Bridges Well-Known Member

    Nah.... all Ford has going for it is reliability. My 2012 F150 Ecoboost, 190,000 Km (123,000 Miles) and one recall, never left me anywhere.
     
  19. Buickpwrdolds

    Buickpwrdolds Well-Known Member

    They aren't bad now but some would argue they already did that. My 05 4runner has the same 4.7l v8 the older tundras had, 273k miles and going strong.
     
  20. red67wildcat

    red67wildcat Well-Known Member

    A coworker of mine had a Nice 07 tacoma Tacoma four-wheel-drive
    with the mileage it was getting too
    he decided to buy a brand new Tacoma loaded four-wheel-drive after two months he hates it it’s been in the shop several times, lots of complaints about Toyota quality anymore in fact he’s ready to unload it after two months and just take a huge loss
     

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