How about another round of automotive trivia??

Discussion in 'The Bench' started by CJay, Sep 13, 2008.

  1. CJay

    CJay Supercar owner Staff Member

    The Cord! I think the model was the 812? I know they referred to it as a "coffin nose"

    As far as the year, I would say mid 30's. Maybe someone else can pinpoint it better
     
  2. 442w30

    442w30 Well-Known Member

    This was not the first FWD American car.
     
  3. cpr3333

    cpr3333 Silver Level contributor

    It wasn't even the first FWD Cord. The Cord L-29 was also FWD and it came out in 1929. I visited a shop in Ohio last Christmas that had 3 810's or 812's (I don't remember which) and an L-29 being worked on.

    Was it the first American FWD car? I don't know, but I'm guessing someone would have at least tried it out before then.
     
  4. 442w30

    442w30 Well-Known Member

    Bingo!
     
  5. Dale

    Dale Sweepspear



    It's kind of a tie between the L-29 and the Ruxton.

    There were some earlier FWD cars, but not actual production models.

    Ever see the shifting mechanism on an 810 / 812 Cord?
    It's a Rube Goldberg affair with electric solenoids and vacuum switches.
    You actually select the gear first, (on a stalk off the steering column) and it won't shift into that gear until you push and release the clutch.
    It's very odd to drive at first.
    It's like patting your head and rubbing your stomach at the same time until you get used to it.
     
  6. 442w30

    442w30 Well-Known Member

    That type of shifting mechanism - I think some of them were electromagnetic - were somewhat common with the more expensive European cars in the 1940s.

    I also don't know if the Ruxton could be considered "regular production" as the Cord L-29 was, but you are correct to bring it up. I kinda recall one with multiple shades of purple.
     
  7. cpr3333

    cpr3333 Silver Level contributor

    I think it's called the "electric hand" and it was sort of an early attempt at an automatic transmission.

    My grandfather had one in his '35 Hudson. Apparently, it was an add-on to the standard transmission and not a complete system. He told me about how it stopped working sometime during WW2 and he just unbolted about 200 pounds worth of mechanism from the bottom of the car, removed a small plate from the floor and mounted the shift lever that had been in the trunk since he bought the car. The car ran fine without it and weighed 200 pounds less!
     
  8. Doo Wop

    Doo Wop Where were you in '62?

    GNXs came with Stewart-Warner speedo and gauges. Not available in metric readings and GM did not want to cover costs to do so. Meaning a GNX could not be sold in Canada.
     
  9. 442w30

    442w30 Well-Known Member

    Here's the answers to mine:

    1. 1968-69
    2. Imperial (I think 1969)
    3. 1970 (This was a trick question - anyone know why?)
     
  10. Doo Wop

    Doo Wop Where were you in '62?



    There was only one 70 Road Runner built with a 440 4bbl as a "special order".
     
  11. 442w30

    442w30 Well-Known Member

    You're on the right track, but what you're talking about has been dispelled to be a Superbird without the nose . . .
     
  12. Dale

    Dale Sweepspear

    I wasn't aware that others had used a somewhat similar means of shifting as the Cord.
    I'm just more familiar with the Cord since Dad had restored one.

    :Comp:
     
  13. Aaron65

    Aaron65 Well-Known Member

    Is it that Superbirds were Road Runners? Didn't just the Superbird get the 440 4 barrel?
     
  14. cpr3333

    cpr3333 Silver Level contributor

    It seemed unlikely that two companies would independently come up with the same wacky system, so I did a bit of research and found this:

    Auburn was working on a column shift for the Cords way-out-front transmission, but ran out of time. Instead, they incorporated an electric-vacuum pre-selective gearshifting device made by Bendix and known as the Electric Hand when offered on Hudsons and Terraplanes the year previous. The shifter on the steering column, which resembled those of the European Cotal and Wilson gearboxes, added yet another futuristic detail to the Cord. Behind the scenes, however, lay many complex switches, multiple vacuum solenoids, and nearly one hundred feet of wire. Its a wonder that it shifts at all.

    I've never actually seen one work. My grandfather's Hudson was probably in a junk yard 20 years before I was born. Having been closer to one, is the story that I mentioned possible? My grandfather had a bit of a reputation for embellishing his stories...
     
  15. 442w30

    442w30 Well-Known Member

    Well, Superbirds were Road Runners, and therefore were the first ones to get the 440-4. This engine on "regular" Road Runners wasn't available till 1972 as part of the GTX package, which was a substitute for the demise of the GTX model from 1971.
     
  16. Dale

    Dale Sweepspear

    I would imagine on a RWD car like the Hudson, it would be easier to change the shifter to a traditional one.
    Dang! I was over at my Mother's today, and was going to look through Dad's photos and materials from the resto of that car, but forgot.
    :Dou:
     
  17. ozhearse

    ozhearse Mick

    Here's a quick trivia question. While on my rounds today for work (there's a clue, it's in this country) I snapped this famous piece of real estate. From which car movie? And what's the building called?

    [​IMG]
     
  18. Aaron65

    Aaron65 Well-Known Member

    Mad Max?
     
  19. CJay

    CJay Supercar owner Staff Member

    yes, looks like the Halls of Justice form Mad Max
     
  20. ozhearse

    ozhearse Mick

    Good work gentlemen! Usually I only see it from the nearby bridge, but my route yesterday took me right past it.
     

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