Gas prices are at all time high

Discussion in 'The Bench' started by Super Bald Menace, Mar 18, 2022.

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  1. Briz

    Briz Founders Club Member

    .. We had to stretch the credit out over 4 years. This will be the first yr that I dont have some to work with and I know I'll be paying out again. Our system was 40K and I refi'd the house to cover the cost. Their payment plan was pretty cheap for the first 3 years then there was a giant balloon payment.
     
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  2. Quick Buick

    Quick Buick Arlington Wa

    WoW you even tell the world they do piss poor work and you still praise them.... I would have not paid them till the replaced the flat roof...... EVERY SQUARE INCH...
     
  3. Fox's Den

    Fox's Den 355Xrs

    Batteries have nickel in them and nickels have well, nickel so save your nickels from your change jar they could be worth 8 cents apiece. Would this make you go down the bank and get a few rolls in case nickel goes up?

    We have to mine this and will be just as harmful as getting the oil. I bet we don't have as much as other countries.
    Why not make ICE better than before instead of pumping a boatload of money in something not many people can afford?
     
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  4. bw1339

    bw1339 Well-Known Member

    People don't realize that those who are pushing for the end of the internal combustion engine tend to have very alarming ideas about private car ownership. I don't believe they expect to exchange ICE vehicles with electric vehicles on a one to one basis, which is why those people are not bothered in the least by where they are going to generate all the necessary electricity or where the raw materials for so many batteries will be found. The small people like us will find ourselves on buses.
     
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  5. Luxus

    Luxus Gold Level Contributor

    What do you mean find ourselves on buses? Like ICE lovers will be forced to drive buses?
     
  6. JESUPERCAT

    JESUPERCAT No Slow Boat

    I won't be driving a bus as it costs more than an electric car because they are bigger and still required to be ELECTRIC:eek::D
    You do realize he was referring to be a passenger on the bus not the driver;)
     
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  7. bw1339

    bw1339 Well-Known Member

    That private transportation will not be as accessible to normal people.
     
  8. Mister T

    Mister T Just truckin' around

    Nickle mining can be extremely toxic to the local environment. The area around Sudbury, Ontario has large ore deposits. At one time, sulphur dioxide pollution killed almost all vegetation within 10 miles of the smelter. It's much better now partially due to stronger environmental laws coupled with a desire to improve quality of life. I remember going through there in 1970 and seeing all the dead trees surrounding the city. It also stunk something fierce. Who's to say less developed countries wouldn't enforce similar clean smelting facilities. Northern Manitoba has a good supply of nickle ore as well.

    Nickle ore tends to be found in granite, which makes it more difficult to extract.
     
  9. Reidk

    Reidk Well-Known Member

    There's a cheaper solution. Look at getting a heat pump water heater. My 65 gallon heat pump water heater only costs $175 per year to operate. Your local home stores will have them. After rebates mine was $1200. Pays for itself in less than 2 years or less. Also, heat pump AC and furnace are extremely efficient ways to heat and cool your home.
     
  10. Fox's Den

    Fox's Den 355Xrs

    We do have the heat pump AC system since we are all electric works fairly good it is a Unico system very quiet.
     
  11. Briz

    Briz Founders Club Member

    Not really sure how to read this. First thought was a smear against me. If so.. uncool. Not endorsing the company or defending them. Didnt even mention the name. Didnt notice the flat roof leak until weeks after the job was done and Its something thats not a real big deal to me. To give credit, There has been a few performance issues that were corrected in a somewhat timely manor at no cost to me.
     
  12. Reidk

    Reidk Well-Known Member

    The water heater will save you thousands. They are awesome. If you get one stay away from the ones with a water leak sensor on the bottom. If you're going into an old basement with it, it might sense moisture in the air and think there's a water leak and shut your water heater off. Mines in my basement and goes off occasionally.
     
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  13. 12lives

    12lives Control the controllable, let the rest go

    Update: crazy swings - don't know how the big builders can price a new home today! [​IMG]
     
  14. 66electrafied

    66electrafied Just tossing in my nickel's worth

    Most of the nickel is in the developing world, the largest band of it is in laterite ore which is usually found between the two tropic in the equatorial zone. Almost all of the nickel in northern Manitoba has been mined out, the company I work for got it all. The environmental damage being done at Sudbury is from a smelter, - there are numerous ways to concentrate or refine nickel, the cleanest is usually using ammonia or through a solvent extraction. Smelting is the oldest and most harmful way of extracting it.

    Nickel or cobalt aren't the problems for batteries; - there's more than enough of both to do one full replacement of cars now. But that will be it; - the stainless steel markets would likely begin to suffer if more nickel was turned into a nickel sulphate slurry for battery production. The real problem is rare earths like lithium, most of the stocks of that currently exist in China. There is some here in Canada as well, but the Feds in their infinite wisdom have more or less made it impossible to pull out of the ground.

    And that uncovers a more urgent and real problem; - the fact that the government here seems hell bent on ruining all mining and natural resource exploitation. Someone in Ottawa seems to be convinced that there is no problem, power just comes from the walls, he's never had any problem plugging anything in. That same person also never worries about gas or fuel for his jets, he never sees it, the planes always fly, and the limos always work, so what's the issue? Who cares what it costs, this same gentleman doesn't know what money is or what it looks like, he's never had to worry about it. Since he isn't mechanically adept, or adept at anything except dressing up for that matter, it doesn't bother him in the least, someone else worries about that.
     
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  15. John Codman

    John Codman Platinum Level Contributor

    We have one too. It's a 50-gallon unit that the manufacturer says costs less then $113 per year to operate. They don't give an exact figure because the bottom of the scale is $113 and our heater uses less then that. Ours was about $1,100; Florida is not environmentally conscious enough to offer rebates. It will pay for itself in a little less then three years.
     
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  16. JESUPERCAT

    JESUPERCAT No Slow Boat

    Why do people always have a hand out for a government grant/gift that you /we paid for in the first place?
     
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  17. sean Buick 76

    sean Buick 76 Buick Nut

    Klaus Schwab Specifically trained Turdo using the “young global leaders” program this isn’t by accident. Thier Moto is: “you will own nothing and you will be happy” as they Reset the worlds economy after tanking it. It’s planned, organized and executed.
     
  18. 436'd Skylark

    436'd Skylark Sweet Fancy Moses!!!!!

    It isn't a hand out. I'm getting my money back. You'd be a fool not to do the same.
     
  19. BYoung

    BYoung Stage me

    Ideally, we could determine ourselves first how to utilize our earnings without it being washed through a bureaucracy that is full of waste.
     
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  20. John Codman

    John Codman Platinum Level Contributor

    Unfortunately, although I philosophically agree with the above statement, if that were the case, there would be no Interstate highway system, no benefits for veterans, no Federal airways system, no aid to education, no Social Security, Medicaid, Armed Forces etc...
     
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