Fuel prices skyrocketing???

Diesel engines might be getting powered by propane in the future. Mack is currently researching with the propane idea as there is no retrofitting a diesel engine to run it. Plus, it's cleaner and it gives the truck alot more power without running lean. Propane to a diesel is basically nitrous oxide to a gas engine. If the oil prices jump up higher then this economy will fall like a rock. It's to the point now where freight rates just climbed up to where it's profitable to operate a truck when diesel has been over the $2.00/gallon mark for awhile. Alot of guys shut their trucks down as they can't make a living off the old rates for hauling freight. My boss just bought a truck that's been sitting for a year cause the guy couldn't afford to run it. Lucky for us my boss has good contacts in the trucking industry where it treats us pretty good.

 

Old news, we already have diesel engines (self combusting engines to be precise, it's not a diesel engine anymore when running on LPG) running on LPG here in the Netherlands.

But please realize that LPG (Liquified Propane Gas) is a by-product from refining oil. So, without oil: no LPG.

It's not true that LPG will provide you more power from the same amount of fuel, expect at least a 20% drop in power on a carburated petrol engine, on injected (or diesel engines) you can get 95% power out of the same amount of LPG, compared to petrol.

 

I heard $3.00 per gallon by summer time.

 

Sounds like I traded in my truck at just the right time.

 

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No, I will not!

 

They've been saying that for the last 3 years. Hasn't happened yet! If it does, I'm moving near my work so I don't have to drive. End of story!

Something would be done if gas got that expensive. I really wish something would start being done now. Either alcolhol, natural gas, something!

We need what they do in Brazil. You go to a gas station and there's 4 different pumps. When one fuel gets expensive, you buy a different one. Most cars sold there can run on alcolhol, gasoline, and natural gas, you choose by flipping a switch. I'm sick of paying ever-increasing prices for gas and to have the option to go with something different has got to be available here and soon.

 

I just don't understand it. We are blaming the oil supply prices but a year ago when the oil was $28 a barrel the gas price was $1.70 and now oil is $50 plus and the gas price is $2.00 a gallon. o No:

What is wrong with this picture?

 

You are spot on dead nuts accurate.

It infuriates me. It's a complete rip off and you're right, nothing gets done about it. The damn gas stations are as much to blame (if not more) as the crude prices themselves.

It's almost like they are in some kind of secret network and as soon as it's anounced in the morning news that crude prices "may" take a hike or something, on the way home from work, the same gas station that was 1.85 per gallon on the way "to" work, is not 1.95!!

You mean to tell me they just got a new tank full of fresh higher priced gas? Yeah right.

 

Maybe this kinda sums it up... :moonu:

 

Exactly!
The oil companies are posting all time record profits by hosing (pun intended)us!!!!!

 

"Incentives and motives drive behavior"

The special interest groups and lobbyists are driving the greed behind big oil and the Republicans.

Just remember, the Bush family has been backing big oil for at least 3 generations.......and, none of them care if gas is $3.00 a gallon, or if Social Security fails.

Those folks are set for for life.

"For someone to profit, someone has to lose"

 

I agree,
Europe has been paying high prices for years, even with the North Sea reserves. We can thank our ultra liberals for basically squashing hopes for any new exploration on the North American continent and also thank them and the EPA for not allowing any new refineries to be built due to stifling regulations, yet they are the first people to complain that the present administration is responsible for the high prices. Next time we all vote, you'd better check to see who your real friends are in government. you may just be voting in the party that would like nothing more than to see your ride crushed and turned into a mass transit bus.
The Commie dictator of Venezuela, Chavez (a hater of the US) and an OPEC member, recently stated that the time for the US to have cheap oil is over and he will push to see those resources redirected to the third world and the Southern Hemisphere. He's the guy who give Castro free oil and gasoline in Venezuela is 14 cents a gallon. Maybe the oil wars of science fiction aren't too far off base.

 

The horror. THE HORROR! Let's take over that pipsqueak country Venezuela and take all their oil.

 

Actually, we need to take over that pipsqueak city, Washington DC.

 

:laugh:

 

Exxon/Mobile............$26 billion in PROFIT for 2004! ou: o No:

 

Alternative (non fossil) fuels are just a pipe dream. It's a known fact that oil produces the most energy per unit vs. energy needed to produce it- far surpassing any other fuel source on the planet. It will take a new technology to replace it, and it's very unlikely to happen cheaply any way you look at it. Hydrogen is a joke, in my opinion; at least until they find a way to extract it that doesn't require energy generated by fossil fuels.

 

You already have it. Yet, with control of three branches of government, you'll still bitch and moan about the "other side" when things don't go "your" way.

Every increase in the price of a barrel of crude prompts a corresponding increase in the price of a gallon of gasoline. Instability in the Middle east prompts increases in a barrel of crude. Why is the price of a barrel of crude higher now than it was before Bush was appointed to his first term ? The war in Iraq causes instability and the supplier adds a "War Premium" to each barrel.

I, for one, am sure glad we're not drilling in AK. Why not use our resources to be ahead of the curve and find solutions in energy?

 

On the morning news here,they blame our increases in fuel costs on you lot,North America and Europe! because of your winter heating demands.
Couldn't you burn your old tyres to keep warm! :Brow: :Brow:
I reckon the US is using everyone elses oil until only the US has it and will then charge the rest of us what you like! p
We also have LPG,but head out to the never never and run out,that's where ya stop!
I work in oil fields all over the planet,and if oil was getting scarce I would not have a job! In fact it's claimed that they have found more in recent times that was ever known to exsist.
Places like the little countries around the Caspian Sea,West Africa,even Iran who copped a belting from another country in the eighties ( wonder who that was??) are coming on line for their own use and are keen to export!
I sure aint worried about running out in my life time,as for cost,well if we keep paying what the market will bear,we have only our selves to blame!

 

Don't forget the Chinese. Remember all those bicycles? They are disappearing and being replaced by cars. Huge demands are on the horizon.