Car Craft June 2009 455 Buildups

Discussion in 'Street/strip 400/430/455' started by sootie007, Apr 9, 2009.

  1. sootie007

    sootie007 65 Skylark -455 - T350

    Got my car craft today and low and behold there is a 455 build up... 2 TA cams 413, TA212 , B4b,Edlebrock Performer, Sp1 , Spx.....next month they are putting "a few sets of better cylinder heads across it" Stay tuned". " So far the 212 with dual plane (b4b or Performer) is their favorite combo . J

    426 hp at 5300
    513 TQ 3500

    455 +.030 = 462
    8.77:1 compression
    Relieved speed pro pistons
    Reconditioned stage one iron heads Ta prepped -stock
    750 cfm Street Hp carb
    Performer or B4B performed the same
    1 7/8 hookers
    TA 212 camshaft
    stock rockers 1.55

    Put on an SPX and made 443 hp at 5500
    500 lbs at 3600

    Then they put a 413 in with an spx and said "basically it was a flop , probably due to our engines low compression and stock heads". 495 ftlbs at 4000 and 459 hp at 5500. "As for torque the large cam lost as much as 40 ft lbs at some points". Next month with new heads ought to be a neat article.....J
     
  2. K0K0

    K0K0 Jamie

    Cool and thx for posting the info i'll try to pick up a CC there not easy to find around.
    Jamie
     
  3. sootie007

    sootie007 65 Skylark -455 - T350

    No problem ...next month is going to be interesting ....they are trying different heads - that ought to be a really neat article....I hope they mention carb jetting as they didnt touch on that subject at all.... ......J
     
  4. Joe Kelsch

    Joe Kelsch Eat Mo' Rats

    I was pretty pleased when I opened this month's CarCraft. The preferred combo is basically the same one I'm using in my Skylark, except that I'm using an iron intake, an 800 cfm Q-jet with a 1 inch carb spacer and TA headers.
     
  5. 65buicklark

    65buicklark Active Member

    sweet that is similar to my combo.

    466 ci .050 over
    cast pistons
    stage 1 heads
    performer
    800 cfm qjet
    comp cams 212int/223exh 112cl degreed at 109.5deg
    9.55 compression
    ta headers
    533 ft/lbs @3400
    422 hp @ 5200
     
  6. TORQUED455

    TORQUED455 Well-Known Member

    I was surprised that the SPX made so much power on a mild engine.

    Too bad they (probably) didn't degree the cams...

    Very good article! Looking forward to parts 2 and 3 in the coming months!
     
  7. RAMKAT2

    RAMKAT2 Randy

    What's up with Car Craft and the newstands??? I can't find a copy anywhere, Including the grocery stores, Wal-Mart, and even Barnes & Noble. Is it a subscriber only deal now to get a copy?
     
  8. dirtrider546

    dirtrider546 Trevor Gardner

    try tops market
     
  9. WE1

    WE1 Well-Known Member

    Its nice to get some coverage. Now I hope they consult with folks in the know with combos that we've found work on these engines. I'd like to see a bump in compression up to a full point to 9.5 to 9.7. Will easily still run on pump fuel. And another full point if they switch to some alum. Stage 1 heads. Another improvement would be an 830 HP Holley carb instead of the 750. Does the article mention timing curves? I'll have to go try to find the magazine. Engines are engines but these big bore short stroke Buicks are kinda peculiar.
     
  10. dan zepnick

    dan zepnick Well-Known Member

    did anyone notice the picture with the printoseal intake gaskets? i've been triing to find them for awhile.ta does'nt carry them,does anyone no who sells them?:Do No: i used to use then years ago,work good..
     
  11. 72gsBuick

    72gsBuick Never Say Never..

    Where Would I Be Able To Sign Up For The Car Craft Magazines, Would I Be Able To Get The Previous Mag, Where The First 455 Was Built...
     
  12. jamyers

    jamyers 2 gallons of fun

    http://www.carcraft.com/index.html

    The latest is a pretty interesting article, I think it's great to see ANY car mag do an article on an actual street-driveable engine build - and it's really close to what a lot of us seem to be running (me included).

    Although I'm a bit surprised by their hp/torque numbers - they seem high to me, especially considering their relatively low compression. Aren't most TA212-cammed engines around here making just under 400hp?
     
  13. Joe Kelsch

    Joe Kelsch Eat Mo' Rats

    I always thought mine did. Though, I think I have a little more compression. My block was decked .010, the heads were trued up taking .008 off and I'm using steel gaskets at .020 thick. I wanted to use my performer intake, but it wouldn't fit (I had it on my 76 Electra so I knew it fit something). For some reason though the stock 70 intake did, so that's what it got.
     
  14. 7 skylark 1

    7 skylark 1 Well-Known Member

    I agree on compression bump and bigger carb. They said 32 total was the best timing for that set up.
     
  15. motorman

    motorman Well-Known Member

    I found the printoseal gaskets in a FelPro high performance catalog and purchased a pair several years ago. They are probably still available since they appeared on the Car Craft engine.
     
  16. eganddg

    eganddg Well-Known Member

    can someone scan the article and email it to me? the suspense is killing me! I have not got the chance to see if I can get my hands on it yet. My P>I>T>A machinist made a point to call me at work and let me know he got his copy in the mail! He refused to give me any of the details of the article-he said i had to get my own copy!
     
  17. 436'd Skylark

    436'd Skylark Sweet Fancy Moses!!!!!

    The reason the compression is so low is probably because they are planning more testing with with the better heads. I believe in the article they mention the heads they are using are 74 with 72 or 71 cc chambers. I'm fairly certain all the aftermarket heads have 64cc chambers. They probably wanted to keep costs down and not have more than one shortblock assembly..
     
  18. 72gsBuick

    72gsBuick Never Say Never..

    Ditto....egganddg....I tried to sign up for the 3rd time today and i guess the website does not take my card, it says its invalid...geeeez someone advise me, i dont want to miss this years article, and sure wish i had last article. i will call car craft tomorrow...:rant:
     
  19. verruckt

    verruckt Nitromethane addict

    Would have been nice to see them use a larger carb than that 750, for comparisons. They were swapping cams and intakes, would have been nice to show the differences between a 750 and 850 at the same time with the various intakes and cams.
     
  20. CantBeataChevy

    CantBeataChevy Buick admirer,Chevy owner

    I can post the article, not sure if there's a copyright issue or not, I'm sure the moderator will delete if there is.

    admin edit...

    Ya, heavy copyright issue... sorry guys, your going to have to pick it up on the newstands.
     

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