Cam degree issue losing my mind!!!!!!!!!!!!

Discussion in 'Street/strip 400/430/455' started by NickEv, Feb 9, 2013.

  1. pmuller9

    pmuller9 Well-Known Member

    You definitely have a nice set-up and I appreciate your input.
    Al Dicksen (HRD Racing Heads) does all of our cylinder head work but not for free!
    I would take you up on that offer if I could.

    I didn't say Nick's port work will have a 65% I/E. I just said I expected the mid lift might.
    Looking back on my post I shouldn't have said anymore about I/E ratios since I already stated that it was the least important value needed in this case for figuring cam specs.
    Can I take that statement back?

    My reply was to share with you what the thought process was and why a wide range of possible I/E ratios wouldn't likely change any of the other cam specs.

    No one has asked Nick if he is going to have his heads flowed after the port work so you can look at the numbers.
    If he does then we will have most of the data and Nick will not have to swing the cam around in a circle waiting to hit a golden goose egg.
    What a Mess!

    Paul
     
  2. buicksstage1

    buicksstage1 Well-Known Member

    Al Dickson, it doesn't get any better then that! I am not trying to make you guys look bad here, as a matter of fact I agree 100% with what you guys are saying. Its the way you guys are getting there that I am pointing out. You have to remember that someone someday if not already is going to come across this thread which is a great topic that I can't remember seeing posted here before and they won't have all the info to apply it to there combo. They need to know its important to have all the flow's, I/E ratio through all the lifts to make the correct cam choice.

    I would like to see all Nicks drive line spec's, engine, trans, gear ratio, complete right down to exhaust. Pic's would be great also. I am interested in what you guys are saying and it looks to be a cool project. I can't wait to see how it turns out:TU:
     
  3. NickEv

    NickEv Well-Known Member

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    My JKM 600 with Performance Trends Software
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    Heads off the LS in the Mustang :TU:

    Heads wil be checked out to see where theyre at at some point,but im not too worried as i have a pretty good ballapark idea where there gonna end up at with whats done to them
    Im no pro at any this but never said i was a beginner as well :Brow:
    I learn all the time and the more ive learned the dumber i feel :mad:

    The cam has been sent back to Lunati,as well as the 1st timing chain
    More than likley i will be installing a cam from Ultradyne/Bullet

    The specs are looking like something in the
    Both intake and exhaust lobes
    a-adv duration 288
    @050-231
    @200-143
    Lobe 500" w 1.55 rocker
    108* Lobe seperation ,in at 104*
    15* overlap

    or poss
    b-Adv Intake lobe-288*-@050"---231*----@200"- 143*--500" w 1.55 rocker
    Exh lobe---adv Duration 296*---@050"-239*---@200"-151*---.523" w 1.55 rocker
    109 Lobe Seperation in At 104*
    17* overlap


    I figure both lobes will be down some on lift ,due to deflection,so they should be OK with stock rockers
    Also wondering that ,sometime down the road i may actually build a se of headers(you never know)and ill want a cam better suited for them,but yet still be close enough for the ported manifolds on there now

    Or maybe put a stock Stage 1 regrind in it and see how far I can push it with factory type stuff :)
     
  4. NickEv

    NickEv Well-Known Member

    I would like to see all Nicks drive line spec's, engine, trans, gear ratio, complete right down to exhaust. Pic's would be great also. I am interested in what you guys are saying and it looks to be a cool project. I can't wait to see how it turns out:TU:


    Vehicle-1973 Apollo-73,000 original miles im Second owner-bench seat/cloumn shifted,manual disc,manual steering,
    Weight-Hoping to be under 3400# (really like to be 3200# someday) with me in it when its done,but still look stock
    Cubes-455 std bore -decked,oil mods,blah blah etc.
    Pistons-Factory 1970 455-CC'd at 24 cc's hung on resized ARP'd bolted rods
    Heads-Ported mildy iron casting-large valves,etc
    Intake -Factory iron-plenum divider milled down and opened up to Performer style opening=will be port matched to heads and may even cut hole underneath Gessler F.A.S.T. style and do some internal work,although id like to back to back that sort of thing
    Have a couple spacers ill try room permitting
    Air cleaner-73 GS Stage 1 twin snorkel modified inlets and better K@N type filter
    Cam-Um anyones guess lol
    Carb-Have -1 750cfm and 1 800cfm both Qjets both built ready to go
    Fuel side-Hidden Holley electric pump,reg,3/8" line from tank up to carb
    Exhaust-Port matched manifolds and outlet opened up to 2-3/8" or so w/ mandrel bent 2-1/2" and Walker Dynomax muffler
    Ignition-Points dist converted to Pertronix 3 recurved etc etc
    Trans=Th350
    Converter-Converter went to 3000 behind sb buick -should flash higher id think behind 455
    Rearend-3.73 eaton posi
    Suspension-stock appearing
    Wheels tires,-Just so happens i received my Hub adaptors today from Mr Steve Reynolds ,so im now on the lookout to get some aluminum wheels to paint black,and pop my poverty caps onto :laugh:
    Probably run some type of drag radial, or poss an old M@H sticky type of tire to look more stock?

    Anything else i forgot let me know
    Nick
     

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