After 20+ years, "I'm DONE!!!!"

Discussion in 'The Bench' started by badbuik, Jun 20, 2019.

  1. badbuik

    badbuik Well-Known Member

    It’s good to be proud of their accomplishments.. It’s fast, an LS, there’s literally a thousand of that same story, out there... I’ve heard it over and over, as mentioned, anyone out racing something off brand (BOP) has too.... Maybe start a thread regarding their build and drag week... My goal is to give them some serious competition, I know I’m still not going to be the fastest, my wallet is not that capable, and I do most of my own work.... Guess we’ll see what happens..
    Gary G
     
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  2. Bens99gtp

    Bens99gtp Well-Known Member

    1000hp on a stk 6.2 with only a cam change.........I think your forgetting the large amount of boost, and head work.

    Let me guess it's a pair of Chinese turbos he bought from Ebay in a 999 kit too?


    If a 6.2 would make 1000hp with just a cam change and nothing else, don't you think GM's would be selling 1000 hp cars.


    I believe the car runs 8.0s. I don't believe to stk rods will live long at 20 psi of boost.

    I would want to know for my own safety at speeds over 170mph, I shouldn't have to be scared of the stk rods coming out and putting oil all under my tires.

    There are plenty of ls motors making that power with 15- 20ish psi of boost. Just not sure how long they live.......but hey just go buy another 400 dollar motor right.
     
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  3. hugger

    hugger Well-Known Member

    Lifting heads is the problem with LS"s over 20lbs,..then you driving thru water
     
  4. telriv

    telriv Founders Club Member

    As of the moment 17ibs. of boost. NO head work. NO twin Chinese turbos. A larger GOOD turbo that cost $$$$ new. Have tried a few. Head studs are the next thing on the list IF they plan on more boost. Right now the vehicle is still in the tuning stages.

    They are doing well enough that some companies are in the process looking to them to give thought to some of their products. To me this means they are surpassing/surprising some of the bigger companies with the progress/results they have been achieving.

    I have from the beginning have focused on safety 1st. & foremost. We ALL know how quickly things can go south in a hurry. I myself have NEVER gone that fast & at 73 question my ability/stamina etc. Not to mention going for an NHRA license. Don't know if I could even pass the test.

    To myself the things they have accomplished are far greater than I would have EVER thought back in the day. Tools & technology have advanced GREATLY from yrs. ago along with the internet on research, etc. that just wasn't available to us in times past.

    It's NO DOUBT they have accomplished things others are looking at with interest & they've done it on a relatively low budget.

    Instead of cutting them down give good thoughts to some fairly, in many of our cases, are youngsters.

    IF I had 1/2 their energy.

    Tom T.
     
  5. Philip66

    Philip66 Well-Known Member

    Hey Gary,

    This may be an elementary question, but I'm naive when it comes to anything boosted that didn't come from the factory that way. (Had a GN for 18 years)

    What is the limit for a belt fed Pro-Charger, at what level is it necessary or smart to go the gear driven route?

    Thanks for your time and I look forward to your progress! ;)
     
  6. TexasT

    TexasT Texas, where are you from

    The belt is the limit. That is why people go to the gear driven activity.
     
  7. Jim Weise

    Jim Weise EFI/DIS 482

    Depends on the belt... there are the micro V- belts, and they slip pretty early in the boost range... then there are the 10MM cog belts, which are a smaller version of a roots blown supercharger belt. Considerable improvement over the micro v belt.

    The movement to crank driven superchargers was more about bracket stability, and charger placement issues, than the limit of the cog belts.

    JW
     
  8. badbuik

    badbuik Well-Known Member

    I have a friend who at one time had the fastest leaf spring Camaro in the nation. Big block Chevy, crank driven procharger, him and I talked, that damn belt will come off at the worst time, and you better “stock” some extras in your race trailer, he also told me “the crank drive was his best investment” never worries about it having issues... Plus I’d guess the side load on the crankshaft can’t be good... I have another buddy with belt driven SBC, he said they can’t really get the most out of it because of the SBC crank snout is a small diameter.. All this led me to the crank drive, and whatever it takes to make it happen.. I’ll just need to add the crank drive & procharger into a maintenance schedule, like my nitrous motor and changing spark plugs, just something different to maintain..
    Gary G
     
  9. badbuik

    badbuik Well-Known Member

    Also, the goal is “reliability”, if there is such a thing in a race motor. I feel the belt is definitely “Un-reliable”...
     
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  10. Bens99gtp

    Bens99gtp Well-Known Member

    X2 at your level, if I was doing what you are it would crank driven or turbos, not a belt
     
  11. telriv

    telriv Founders Club Member

    For some videos of the accomplishments from beginning to the present go to:

    LS3Fox

    Tom T.
     
  12. badbuik

    badbuik Well-Known Member

    Tom T. I “suggest” you start your own thread regarding their accomplishments., It would get more appreciation that way instead of being buried in this thread regarding making serious changes to something relevant to the Buick community... Like I said, the story you’ve shared is told and heard a thousand times..
    Gary G
     

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