by those numbers, there's an 86.1% chance its a GSX - and a 13.8 % chance its not ... If I was a betting man, those are damn good odds to gamble on
GSX or not.... 4 speed '71? Amazing deal...if I had the money I'd jump on this...great project that you just gotta slap together. Good luck with the sale!
I thought it still needed to be restored. It looks like a good place to start unless you want show quality I guess you could slap it together but what would you have then. As the 83% chance its a GSXyou also have to try to figure how many GS were ( low body later build) I am no actuary but I think the odds are much greater because of that. Why would a regular GS be pulled form the line for assembly later? I donno maybe its a GSX.
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"The sport mirror on the pass side has an issue rather it is the wrong mirror or as simple as wrong gasket." The sport mirrors are the wrong ones, they are the taller mirrors off a Camaro. "That assumes it came from the factory with a spoiler, do we know for sure if it did???" There is also no proof it started as a rear spoiler car, the SCO could have been for something else like a front spoiler, or some wierd option combination. "( low body later build) I am no actuary but I think the odds are much greater because of that. Why would a regular GS be pulled form the line for assembly later?" Nothing was pulled off the line, Buick "reserved" so many low body numbers for the SCO cars. Has anyone checked the frame numbers to see if the car is a 350 or BB car? That's the only way to tell with 71-72 4-speed cars. Duane
So any SCO might have a low body number. Can anything be considered evidence if the body numbers of another GSX are just 2 different and the same color?
The first thing I want to say is regardless of whether it is a GSX or not the price they are asking for the car makes this package look like a pure gift. If the paint looks nice in person, I don't see how anyone could put just a body in that condition for that price, especially for a SCO car. "So any SCO might have a low body number. Can anything be considered evidence if the body numbers of another GSX are just 2 different and the same color?" OK, evidence is evidence. It is very hard to prove 71 GSXs without a buildsheet, as a matter of fact its even hard to prove one if you have a buildsheet other then the "Production Order Body Final" sheet. As far as body numbers being close I will give an example. Years ago we purchased a White 70 GS 350 coupe. When we took it apart, we found the large "Body Shop Inspection" sheet rolled up in the dash. Inside it was one of the small 3"x4" seat tags from a GSX. (In 70 they ran the white GSXs in with the regular production cars. They still color batched the cars to save both time and materials as far as paint changes.) The body number for the "GSX" tag was very close (within a few numbers) to the 350 car. So what this told us was there was a white GS 350 car that was built along with the GSX's. Now when you really get down to it a 71-72 GSX is actually a stripe package period, that's all it is. You can have all the correct parts in the world on the car and it still will not prove it had stripes. There are only 3 ways to tell if it's real because there is no microfilm available, 1. Would be to find a Buildsheet with the info on it. 2. Would be to get the GM of Canada info if the car just happened to have originally come from there. 3. Would be to look at body panels with original paint, and verify the car was built in the right plant, during the correct time period, check the sequencing of the SCO number and the vin number, verify the panels the paint are on have the correct date code (so we know they were not switched from another car) etc etc. On the 71 cars all you are looking for is a proof for paint, not parts. Duane PS. I wish I had a trash can and was allowed to collect all the buildsheets they threw out at the end of the Flint plant for the 70-72 years. Could you imagine how rich I would be today?
I thought that in 71 the stage 1` had disc but I am learaning more every day. Thank you Duane and Tom. Now I want it even more. I see a BB steering shaft. Also the transmission would be different from BB to SB right? Now to talk the wife into another car ............yeah right. I think whom ever buys this car will have a very cool car and when and if the 71 info surfaces will be able to laugh at the price paid.
GSX or not, for $25,000, I'd expect that car to be complete/running/dependable, as I've passed up nicer original '70 GSX's for LESS than that! I'd seriously consider it, though, as an alternative to having to go through the restoration I'm just starting with my '70 GS Stage 1, although I just don't like the '71/'72 features (grille/scoops/bumpers/etc.).o No:
I hear you Brother.:TU: What happened to the gy that posted that he knew of the 71 info. I cannot remember the thread but it caused a little stir among 71 owners when it was posted. One would think that it would be a revenue source for whomever owned or had access to that info.
......unless whoever does have the info owns a clone and doesn't want the info out that would dis-prove his/her car. I can't think of ANY other reason for the person to withhold that kind of important information. I'd love for someone, maybe the person who DOES have the info, to prove me wrong. :shock:
Starting in 1971 when you ordered a GS 455 or Stage 1 car, power disc brakes were embedded in those Big Block option upgrades. Considering this car has manual brakes is a sign and only a sign that it is a 350 4 speed car. I can't see in the engine bay pic if it has a BB steering shaft?
Are the Radiator Insulators different (Wider) on a Big Block Car ? You can clearly see one of them in the picture. It looks like the size you would get on a small block car. I'm not sure if they're different on BBBs though ???
"Are the Radiator Insulators different (Wider) on a Big Block Car ?" No, they are all the same size. Duane
