‘When seconds count, the police are minutes away…’

Discussion in 'The Bench' started by pbr400, Sep 16, 2023.

  1. Bens99gtp

    Bens99gtp Well-Known Member

    As I said I spend time behind bars after doing that I'd sit there every day and know I protected my family
     
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  2. CJay

    CJay Supercar owner Staff Member

    I wouldn't want that on my conscience for the rest of my life. God forbid I have to be put in that situation. I killed a bird with my car once and I couldn't sleep for three days
     
  3. allan m johnson

    allan m johnson Well-Known Member

    someone who did what he did in the past no longer makes him human,he should be dead as are 99%perent of riminals
     
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  4. dynaflow

    dynaflow shiftless...

    ...great general home defense weapon. In old age I don't enjoy 00 kick, so I got a mag extension, matching length barrel, and LE loads for my 1100. Still, don't like thought of possibly tearing up house. So, depending on situation, it's that or 9mm with 147 gr tacticals, and I'm thinking about a green dot for the 9. Like others have said, I hate that it's come to this, but...
     
  5. TrunkMonkey

    TrunkMonkey Totally bananas

    Dead dirtbags don't recidivis...

    You know, the word, the thing.

    Where's my ice cream?
     
  6. TrunkMonkey

    TrunkMonkey Totally bananas

    I killed a sparrow once with a pellet gun.
    It was up high on a wire. Shot it, it spiralled down like one of those "helicopter" seeds.

    I went and found it, but it was not dead, I only broke it's back. I picked it up and held it against the muzzle of the rifle, my intent was to put it out of it's misery. It looked at me, and I felt so bad harming innocent life.

    I pulled the trigger.

    All I remember was the intense pain from the pellet hitting the side of my left index finger.

    I do not remember much else, except the pain.

    Not sure if I dispatched the poor bird or not.

    At that point, it no longer mattered.

    All of of this would come back to me many years later in the military.

    There is life you mourn taking, and life you must take.

    Pain is pain, but not all pain is the same.

    Never take innocent life, and never mourn any that needed taking.

    And live to remember the difference.
     
  7. Mark Demko

    Mark Demko Well-Known Member

    I agree 100%
    They’re a bad seed and it’s been proven, he/they REPEAT their crimes, some people are not born good.
     
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  8. Mark Demko

    Mark Demko Well-Known Member

    I remember my stepson saying “if I had a gun I’d kill that Starling”
    I asked “why?”
    He replied “ I hate them, they serve no purpose”
    I replied back “ how would YOU like it if somebody shot you ‘cause they hated you and figured you serve no purpose?”
    Jason’s head looked toward the ground and he was silent.
     
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  9. rolliew

    rolliew Well-Known Member

    "I don't like repeat offenders, I like dead offenders."

    Ted Nugent
     
  10. Bens99gtp

    Bens99gtp Well-Known Member

    I'm not for taking innocent life, I'm not even for killing every criminal or murderer......
    But you put in the situation where it's me or you, or my family or you.....I know without hesitation or regret what my choice is and I will make it time and time again without a blink of an eye......and ill take the outcome like a man knowing I did what a father and husband should do
     
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  11. Mark Demko

    Mark Demko Well-Known Member

    Can always just wound the criminal.
     
  12. telriv

    telriv Founders Club Member

    Then they are alive to tell their tales of woo.
    Don't give that choice!!!

    Tom T.
     
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  13. Bens99gtp

    Bens99gtp Well-Known Member

    Well I guess that's a consequence that's the criminal has to live or deal with when then walk uninvited into someone's house in the middle bight isn't it. Common sense tells me if I do that the end result could be very bad........this or any person in life has a choice to make........everyday we all make choices that we may or may not know the outcome or how said choices effect other ppl.

    If someone makes the choice to walk into my house this way in the middle of the night, then they are accepting the outcome. I already know I can grow old accepting my part of the choice. And if that keeps me out of the pearly gates in the end, then I'm OK with that too.......ill know I protected my family at any and all cost. Any I know my family will have my back......for me that's all I need. If others need something else or how every they process it, great, that why we live here because we have that right and choice for now at least
     
  14. pbr400

    pbr400 68GS400

    I always figured it was ‘Wheel of (mis)Fortune’. You spin the wheel by breaking into homes. Sometimes the pointer lands on ‘free guns’, sometimes ‘free jewelry’, sometimes ‘free car’, and once in a while ‘homeowner shoots you’. As a homeowner, I’m just a piece on that wheel.
    The Georgia homeowner, faced with an unknown intruder, did what he felt was necessary and stopped when the threat ceased. He didn’t know he was dealing with a ruthless murderer, but he likely did know that Georgia law favors the owner, thus no need to worry about the victim’s ‘tales’. We don’t know him but maybe he has his reasons for stopping when he did.
    Patrick
     
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  15. John Codman

    John Codman Platinum Level Contributor

    I use #6 Birdshot. I don't want to have the shot go through a wall and hurt or kill one of my dogs. My thought is that the perp will decide to leave while he still can. I'm a patient man - if it takes multiple rounds to stop the guy - that's why a pump.
     
  16. rolliew

    rolliew Well-Known Member

    #7 1/2 puts a 1" hole in 3/4 particle board at seven yards.
    Just saying.
     
  17. knucklebusted

    knucklebusted Well-Known Member

    You could always load a bean bag as the first round. No warning shots needed.
     
  18. TrunkMonkey

    TrunkMonkey Totally bananas

    "The first shot is the warning shot."
    -my Drill Instructor.
     
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  19. DaWildcat

    DaWildcat Platinum Level Contributor

    Having been taught by a martial artist and beat cop turned County prosecuting attorney since 1979, do what you must to protect.

    Purposefully shooting to wound is a fallacy and only happens in fiction. Granted, a shotgun bean bag as a first round MIGHT be a deterrent...if one even hits the moving target. Emphasis on MOVING.

    The reality is that under that pressure you shoot to center mass the best you can. IF your panic, tunnel vision, hyperventilation, x3 heart rate even lets you remember how to pick up the firearm.

    It really does take some extensive training to self-induce calm in such situations. If you have the years to get that far, my hat is off.

    P.S. Public Service announcement...please make your firearms ready for you, but not to anyone else you haven't assigned.

    Devon
     
    Last edited: Sep 19, 2023
  20. TrunkMonkey

    TrunkMonkey Totally bananas

    ^^^

    Realize if you try to use " I shot to wound, not to kill", you play into the production 's premise that the situation did not require deadly force, and you are now at an extreme disadvantage by your own testimony. (Now, go back to "Miranda" and understand exactly what it means).

    You only employ deadly force because that is what you completely and fully believe to be your only option. And you never step off that point, no matter what.

    If it is the case, push the chips I vtge number and let it ride, come what may.

    Trying to move your chips after "all bets are in" will never, ever work in your favor.

    The house, always, wins.
     

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