I saw this on you tube, I want to know if there is any truth to it. I want to convert my Buick to water powered (hydrogen HHO) I understand from school that its impossible to electrolysis water into hydrogen and oxygen and end up with more energy than was required to electrolysis the water in the first place but this video is very compelling. They say that they electrolysis the water with a certain pulsing frequency of electricty that allows a greater amount energy to be produced than required to produce it. anyway... times change maybe they found something new, is anyone familiar with this..and how can I convert my Lesabre to run on water. LOL.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CrxfMz2eDME
Unpossible. Every time gas prices jump up, this sort of scam comes out of the woodwork. If there is any improvement in gas mileage after installing a gas-saving device, it is because the person who installed the device drives more gently.
well, i have to say that if the HHO thing really "works", that's the way it should be done. battery to start the HHO cracking process and then the IC engine runs off of the HHO and charges the battery. eliminate the gasoline altogether. i have a really hard time believing this reaction has a + energy result though.
HOW much do you pay for one of those little 12oz bottles of water at the store!!??.....Now, if it ran on recycled beer....:laugh: Robert
Why is it that the "alternative fuels" these brilliant minds keep coming up with use up the very resources we need to live? Ethanol takes away from our food resources, and now they want to use up the water supply too. Is anyone else a little wary of the folks using food and water to make fuel? We have enough oil buried in North America to last us for at least 300 more years, but a certain group of politicians has stopped all new oil exploration, drilling, and production on government land (ANWAR, the BLM land in the S.W. corner of Wyoming, the N.W. corner of Colorado, and eastern Utah, not to mention the potential offshore oilfields), or allowed the construction of a single new oil refinery, or a new Nuclear Power facility in the U.S. for nearly 30 years. Gee, I wonder why we depend so much on foreign oil? This is the same group of politicians, by the way, that promised in 2006 to reduce the price of gasoline for all Americans (It was $2 a gallon then). Their plan sure is working well so far. Sorry I hijacked the thread. I guess I should spend more time working on my car and less time watching the idiot box. Later, Randy
I am in the process of building an HHO booster right now. The science behind it is real and has been quantified by many. I will post results either good or bad when I get a fair amount of miles driven with the booster. I am as big of a skeptic as there is and I have done a lot of research on the topic. If you haven't actually done it or tried it, then you shouldn't be posting speculation on here. If the HHO booster does the 20-50% claimed improvement in fuel econ., then that is SUBSTANTIAL in todays market. Which, by the way, isn't getting any better anytime soon. Just my .02. Stay tuned.
The science behind it is real and has been quantified by many. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HHO wiki, although not in itself definitive, agrees that the science is real and quantified. they say it doesn't violate the 2nd law of thermodynamics. which is what i was expecting. " The amount of heat energy released is independent of the mode of combustion, but the temperature of the flame varies.<sup id="cite_ref-encyclopedia_0-1" class="reference">[1]</sup> The maximum temperature of about 2800 C is achieved with a pure stoichiometric mixture, about 700 degrees hotter than a hydrogen flame in air.<sup id="cite_ref-2" class="reference">[3]</sup><sup id="cite_ref-3" class="reference">[4]</sup><sup id="cite_ref-4" class="reference">[5]</sup> When either of the gases is mixed in excess of this ratio, or when mixed with an inert gas like nitrogen, the heat must spread throughout a greater quantity of matter and the temperature will be lower." I am in the process of building an HHO booster right now. good luck. note also that they don't consider that Jap car to be HHO powered, the metal hydride is the active part: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water-fuelled_car the section on the Garrett electrolytic carb is highly instructive.
Remember the Back to the Future sequels? The Mister Fusion thing on the car. Maybe someone could get to work on that. It worked on garbage.
What do you mean wikipedia says it doesn't violate the laws of physics? "Oxyhydrogen is often mentioned in conjunction with devices that claim to increase automotive engine efficiency. Many of these claims, prima facie, violate the Law of conservation of energy. See Conservation of energy and Electrolysis of water:Efficiency. To date, none of these claims have been proven, and most have been fraudulent." Seems pretty clear to me. -- Steve
Just noticed on MSNBC video section that a Japanese company has produced a prototype car that runs on water to the rate of 50 miles to the liter. It did not go into detail about how the water is broken down but I assume electrolysis. Interesting someone would invest money in the "impossible".
What do you mean wikipedia says it doesn't violate the laws of physics? i mean that the process abides by the laws of physics. which means that the claims ( not the process, the process abides by all the rules of chemistry and physics ) are a scam. the hazardous thing with something like this is that, if it actually shows a mpg increase, it's going to be because it's draining the battery. you might get 4 or 5 tanks of gas with 20% ( or whatever ) extra fuel mileage and then you'll wind up buying a new battery. i don't think that's a good trade off. it would be very hard on the alternator as well. the problem is it might sucker a lot of people in before they figure out what's going on. It did not go into detail about how the water is broken down but I assume electrolysis. that's in the second wiki article i linked. they're using metal hydrides to crack the water instead of electricity. of course, this reaction consumes the metal. needless to say, there's a lot of energy invested in making metal hydrides. claiming it "runs on water" is a huge misrepresentation of what is actually going on. frankly, the only way i could see this "working" would be if you covered the roof of your house with solar panels and then used the current from that to crack runoff water you were keeping in a cistern. then have swappable tanks, one to run the car while the other gets filled by the cracking station. Interesting someone would invest money in the "impossible". more interesting that news reporters are so gullible that they keep repeating this crap without doing the slightest bit of research. either they're incompetent or deliberately lying to the public. your choice.
Yes it works. I have a friend that is using 3 hho generators on his nisson which started out getting 33 mpg, and now is getting a solid 50 mpg. With a little more tweeking he should get close to 60. Its not "free energy" but a cheep way to get better mpg. I have built several hho generators in my kitchen and shop, they work just fine. Sammy
Please post the makeup of the experiment, along with control group details. I am certainly not against anything new as long as it survives the scrutiny of science. Devon
I've been running on water for years. I bought Wonder Womans invisible jet, and did the conversion years ago! Let me know how your conversion works on wheels. ElectraJim
