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The desire of your heart......

Discussion in 'Help From Above' started by GKMoz, Apr 25, 2022.

  1. GKMoz

    GKMoz Gary / Moz

    “For God, who said, “Light shall shine out of darkness,” is the One who has shone in our hearts to give the Light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Christ.”
    ‭‭-2 Corinthians‬ ‭4:6‬.......Me: The desire and the light of one's heart
     
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  2. 482

    482 Big Member

    Awesome verses Gary,
    2 Corinthians 4:3-6 "But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost: 4:4 In whom the God of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them. 4:5 For we preach not ourselves, but Christ Jesus the Lord; and ourselves your servants for Jesus' sake. 4:6 For God, who commanded the light to shine out of darkness, hath shined in our hearts, to give the light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ."
    2 Corinthians 4:13-14 "We having the same spirit of faith, according as it is written, I believed, and therefore have I spoken; we also believe, and therefore speak; 4:14 Knowing that he who raised up the Lord Jesus shall raise us up also by Jesus, and shall present us with you."
     
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  3. 482

    482 Big Member

    Ken,
    The tension you speak of arises partially from the translation of the meaning of predestined and foreordained. Both come from the Greek word 'proorizo' and the translator used what he determined was the best meaning. They, predestination and foreordination, are not synonymous and have different meanings.
    Romans 8:29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the first born among many brethren.
    Romans 8:30 Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified.
    Translation Year Romans 8:29 Romans 8:30
    Wyclif 1380 bifor ordeyned bifor ordeyned
    Tyndale 1534 ordeyned before appoynted before
    Cranmer 1539 ordeyned before appoynted before
    Geneva 1657 ordeyned before appoynted before
    Rheims 1582 predestinated predestinated
    Standard Rev. 1881 foreordained foreordained
    James Moffatt 1913 decreed of old has thus decreed
    J. B. Phillips 1958 chose them chose them long ago
    Wm. F. Beck 1963 appointed long ago appointed long ago
    New Testament
    in Today’s
    English 1966 had also set apart had already set apart

    First Peter 1:2 Elect according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, through sanctification of the Spirit, and unto obedience and sprinkling of the blood of Jesus Christ: Grace unto you, and peace, be multiplied.
    Jeremiah 1:4-5 Then the word of the Lord came unto me, saying, Before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee; and before thou camest forth out of the womb I sanctified thee, and I ordained thee a prophet unto the nations.
    Jeremiah was foreordained to be a prophet while he was still a spirit person with God before being born into mortality.
    Ephesians 1:3-4 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who has blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ: 4 According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:
    Second Timothy 1:9 Who hath saved us, and called us with an holy calling, not according to our works, but according to his own purpose and grace which was given us in Christ Jesus before the world began.
    Second Thessalonians 2:13 But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the spirit and belief of the truth:
    Romans 2:6-7 Who will render unto every man according to his deeds: 7 To them who by patient continuance in well doing seek for glory and honor and immortality, eternal life:
    Romans 2:16 In the day that God will judge the secrets of men by Jesus Christ according to my gospel.
    First Timothy 2:4 Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.
    All men were foreordained for salvation before they were born, as spirit beings similar as Jerimiah was, which does not mean that they won't be judged for their free will bad choices if they don't repent of them. You were not predestined by God you were given appointments, assignments or duties through foreordination. Substitute foreordained in for predestined and it helps to make the glass less dim by more understanding. Pray and ask God if these things are not true, he still has the power to answer and guide you, and he still loves you.
     
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  4. GKMoz

    GKMoz Gary / Moz

  5. 482

    482 Big Member

    Thanks Gary, I did not know this wiki was available, you're awesome.
     
  6. mrgransport

    mrgransport Well-Known Member

    If you
    are His, the desires of your heart will be a close walk with Him and feeling His presence in your life.
     
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  7. bhambulldog

    bhambulldog 1955 76-RoadmasterRiviera

  8. GKMoz

    GKMoz Gary / Moz

    "God wants us to have a heart for Him, not the world."
     
  9. 482

    482 Big Member

    Agread, Amen
     
  10. 73Stage2

    73Stage2 Well-Known Member

    God drives a Buick, amen
     
  11. sean Buick 76

    sean Buick 76 Buick Nut

  12. GKMoz

    GKMoz Gary / Moz

    1 Corinthians 2:14-15
    King James Version

    14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

    15 But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man.
     
  13. 482

    482 Big Member

    1 Corinthians 2:16 For who hath known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct him? But we have the mind of Christ.
    Amos 3:7 Surely the Lord God will do nothing, but he revealth his secret unto his servents the prophets.
    Amos 8:11-12 Behold the days come, saith the Lord God, that I will send a famine in the land, not a famine of bread, nor a thrist for water, but of hearing the words of the Lord: 8:12 And they shall wander from sea to sea, and from the north even to the east, they shall run to and fro to seek the word of the Lord, and shall not find it.
    Romans 11:34 For who hath known the mind of the Lord? or who hath been his counseller?
    Paul and Peter were prophets, spiritual, and had the mind of Christ, if you needed to know the Lords will how not to be a natural man or receive the Holy Spirit that's whom you would ask. If you don't have a prophet you need to find one for spiritual information details and not miss-out. The Lords always made his will known this way why would he do things differently now? I would suggest skipping Waco, grevious wolves and Jim Jones Kool aid stand in your search.
     
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  14. GKMoz

    GKMoz Gary / Moz

    In the Bible, the heart is considered the seat of life or strength. Hence, it means mind, soul, spirit, or one's entire emotional nature and understanding.
     
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  15. GKMoz

    GKMoz Gary / Moz

    Proverbs 4:23
    Above all else, guard your heart,
    for everything you do flows from it.
     
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  16. 482

    482 Big Member

    Well said.
     
  17. Ken Mild

    Ken Mild King of 18 Year Resto's

    Colossians 3:2 says "Set your mind on the things that are above, not on earthly things"

    I have found that it is incredibly difficult to have a progressively changed heart if you are not setting your mind on things that are above (On the gospel, heaven, eternal things). Your mind is a battleground which in turn feeds the heart. Setting your "mind" on Christ's sacrifice after all, has a supernatural effect on the heart, if you have indeed recognized your need for forgiveness. The word of God has much to say about the mind. Why? Because it affects the heart.

    "Do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the *renewal of your mind*...." Romans 12:2

    "For those who live according to the flesh set their *minds* on the things of the flesh, but those who live according to the Spirit set their *minds* on the things of the Spirit. For to set the *mind* on the flesh is death, but to set the *mind* on the Spirit is life and peace." Rom 8:5-6

    "You keep him in perfect peace, whose *mind* is stayed on you......" Isaiah 26:3

    "I will *meditate* on your precepts and fix my eyes on your ways" Psalm 119:15

    "Finally, brothers, whatever is true, whatever is honorable, whatever is just, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is commendable, if there is any excellence, if there is anything worthy of praise, **think ** about these things." Phil 4:8

    "For to set the *mind* on the flesh is death, but to set the *mind* on the Spirit is life and peace." Rom 8:6
     
  18. GKMoz

    GKMoz Gary / Moz

    Jeremiah 29:13
    You will seek me and find me when you seek me with all your heart.
     
  19. GKMoz

    GKMoz Gary / Moz

    “The purifying of the heart is the enlightening of the spiritual eyes. Strange as it may seem, the true eyes of the renewed man are seated rather in the heart than in the head—holy affections enable us to see and, as far as possible, to understand Divine things. I pray that in each one of us, the eyes of our hearts
    may be enlightened so that we may know spiritual things as they are best known."
     
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  20. 482

    482 Big Member

    John 14:15 If ye love me keep my commandments. 16 And I will pray the Father, and He shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you forever; 17 Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knowth him: but ye know him: for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you. 18 I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you. 19 yet a little while, and the world seeth me no more; but ye see me: because I live, ye shall live also.
    John 14:20 At that day ye shall know that I an in my Father, and ye in me, and I in you. 21 He that hath my commandments, and keepth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him. 22 Judas saith unto him, not Iscarlot, Lord, how is it that thou wilt manifest thyself unto us, and not unto the world? 23 Jesus answered and said unto him, if a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.
    John 14:24 He that loveth me not keepeth not my sayings: and the word which ye hear is not mine, but the Fathers which sent me. 25 These things have I spoken unto you, being yet present with you. 26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your rememberance, what so ever I have said unto you.
    John 14:27 Peace I leave with you, my peace I give unto you, Let not your heart be troubled, neither let it be afraid. 28 Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I.
    Philippians 4:7 And the peace of God, which passeth all understanding, shall keep your hearts and minds through Jesus Christ.

    But first you have to generate enough faith to keep his commandments to receive this promised peace that you are seeking.
     

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