Project HP 69 S/S Skylark

Discussion in 'Race 400/430/455' started by Graham, Feb 18, 2006.

  1. Todd69GS

    Todd69GS Silver Level contributor

    Graham have you ever considered using a Hurst quarter stick or something similiar and modifying it to fit into a stock console. I know it wouldn't be correct but it would look cool to have a race shifter mounted into a stock console and it would give you the reassurance of not putting the car into nuetral while you are racing and shifting.
     
  2. Graham

    Graham Registered User

    Todd, Thats a very good idea, I'll look into that.
    Nice job mounting that tach, yea its tough finding room in the '69's.
    Jeff, good ideas, and by going to a different style shifter, that switch may already be incorporated.
     
  3. Todd69GS

    Todd69GS Silver Level contributor

    Well it would probably take some modifying of the console since the stock unit is a horse shoe type shifter. What if you entirely took out the section where the stock shifter goes and made up an alum., or sheet metal plate to go in its place. Then you could slot it in the middle for a Quarter Stick or something similiar. You could paint the plate to match the console and it would look very clean.
    Maybe check out www.chevelles.com since the Chevelles used the horse shoe shifter as well and maybe some of those guys have done some mods to theirs.
     
  4. 69GS400s

    69GS400s ...my own amusement ride!

    Years ago in the GSXetra there was an article published on how to Mod the shifter so there was a "detent" for each gear - forcing you to lift up on the lock-out.

    Basically invlved just notching the slide that the lock lever rides on. I'll dig for it.

    ....here's where I mounted my tach

    [​IMG]
     
  5. BQUICK

    BQUICK Well-Known Member

    Yeah Alan, I wrote that thing about the shifter plate mod. I actually bought some new ones and copied the pattern onto them and sold them. Then the plate which by the way is held in by two bolts was discontinued. Any original plate can be modified. See if you can find the article.

    I originally did it for my GSX in the early 80s for bracket racing. Just made the mod for the 2-3 shift. Worked like a charm. Slapped it hard for literally thousands of runs w/o hitting neutral.

    Was still that way on the X when I sold it.

    Bruce
     
  6. Sportwagon400

    Sportwagon400 Well-Known Member

    Graham after our phone conversation tonight I looked at the picture of your shifter handle you have a 70-72 shifter handle in your car now and probably the base is newer as well a 68-69 handle may not fit on that unit!!! I may have a 70-72 handle in my collection please when you get home take a picture of the shifter base and I can tell from that what one you have... If you have the 70-72 set up it is actually better and you can get a new chrome (plastic) insert for the top as well

    Ken
     
  7. 69GS400s

    69GS400s ...my own amusement ride!

    Correct - a 68/69 Shifter handle will not fit on a 70-72 Shifter.

    I dug in my stash ... I'll send you a PM
     
  8. Graham

    Graham Registered User

    Thanks Ken, I may see you on Friday. :)

    Alan, That would mean more to me than you could imagine. Thanks and we'll chat soon! :beer :TU:
     
  9. Graham

    Graham Registered User

    Latest and greatest engine pic before the outing...
     

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  10. Graham

    Graham Registered User

    Eye on Crankcase Pressure.
     

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  11. Graham

    Graham Registered User

    OK,... this thing is retarded. :Brow:

    Took it out this morning on its maiden voyage.

    At a 30 mph roll I kicked the throttle up only halfway (no downshift) and smoked both tires instantly.

    What a machine! :shock: Wow :3gears:
     
  12. Sportwagon400

    Sportwagon400 Well-Known Member

    Congratulations :TU: :TU: :TU: Thats probalby why i did not hear from you Friday you were to busy laughing and giggling and shaking :shock: .. Call me next time you are back in town we can get together and shoot the brezze and maybe do a car swap :grin: ( no not that one )

    Ken
     
  13. Graham

    Graham Registered User

    Serious traction issues

    *Update*, took the machine out this morning. It was overcast, cool, 50F. We are at 2800 ft here. Still running the 14" Factory ralleys with newer 245 TA BFG radials all around. Using up last years stock of VP's "CMP" Oxygenated race fuel. $685 a drum. Converter is a custom built unit that is TIGHT. Stalls at 2600-2700rpm. 3:90 gears. I will be getting some 15" Weld Prostars and big ET Street radials for the rear.

    At 60mph I slammed the throttle wide open and HAZED the tires. :shock: No ****!!

    Looked in the rear view mirror and saw the black patches then hit the binders as it was only a 50 mph zone. Unreal...
    :TU:

    Still some valve train noise apparent though. :Do No: Have great oil pressure, the lifters are spinning, pushrods spitting the Red Line oil, Lash seems to be set right and the sound is the same on both sides of the engine, Clickity clacking... Is that normal? Any ideas? :puzzled:

    Ken, should have called, we had to go for turkey at the inlaws. I'll call you soon. :)
     
  14. 10sec 455

    10sec 455 Well-Known Member

    Graham,
    Haven't been following this whole thread, but glad to see you have your car out and enjoying it! :TU: :3gears:
     
  15. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member

    My valvetrain is definitely noisier since I put the aluminum heads and roller rockers on. Doesn't make any noise when cold, but gets clickey when hot. I would guess I need more preload when hot, due to the aluminum expansion. Still, too loose is better than too tight. I've been told by several people that roller rocker are naturally noisier than the stock steel rockers. I thought they would be quieter :Do No:
     
  16. Graham

    Graham Registered User

    Very good points on your previous valve train thread, thanks Larry, I'll recheck the adjustments, they may be looser than that. Its still somewhat noisy, which is kinda concerning.

    Here are a few recent pics, still have to bolt the passenger seat in. :grin:
     

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  17. Graham

    Graham Registered User

    New steering wheel kit from The Parts Place. Haven't cleaned the car yet..
     

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  18. Graham

    Graham Registered User

    Side shot. Traction is a major problem with the factory ralleys & P245 60 R14"s. New wheels and rubber on the way. Stay tuned.
     

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  19. 87GN_70GS

    87GN_70GS Well-Known Member

    "...more preload when hot, due to the aluminum expansion. Still, too loose is better than too tight..."

    That will depend on the type of lifters. If the plunger is hitting the plunger retainer, then the cheap snap wire type won't last. If it's a good c or e-clip type, they can take that.
     
  20. 69GS400s

    69GS400s ...my own amusement ride!

    THATS no HotRod .... Looks more like GrandMaw's Sunday ChurchMobile :Do No:

    :beer :TU: :beer
     
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