Jim Shiels is no friend of mine

Discussion in 'Buyer/Seller Feedback' started by CJay, Jun 8, 2010.

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  1. Sportwagon400

    Sportwagon400 Well-Known Member

    X2 I am a little tired of a lot of people here having an opinon about one (unhappy) side of the story. there are 3 sides to every story yours , mine, and the truth. Seems that unless a person has ALL the facts it is improper and infact wrong to pass judgment on others that you have no dealings with based on one side of a story. Then almost demanding the other person to come on and defend his actions, to people whom also have no dealings with him, seems a little heavy handed.

    I joined this board to further my knowlege and share mine with others about a cars i love My Buicks. Its just this kind of childish reaction to a personal issue that has made me come back less and less

    come on kids grow up and play nice together let two men handle there own issues in private as adults or if need be call a Lawyer if you feel its that serious leave the board to more important issues like keeping our Buicks on the road and running strong

    This site is for the benifit of Buick owners not a platform to cry about your persoanl issues

    Ken
     
  2. william.ali.kay

    william.ali.kay Needs more cowbell!

    This section of the board is where people can express their opinions about personal dealings for all to see good or bad.

    Its funny how nobody says a story is one sided when people only have good things to say.:Smarty:

    And for what its worth, I didnt think anyone was crying about anything by posting in the buyer/seller feedback section.
    I do hope you guys can resolve this one way or another. It sounds like an unfortunate situation for both parties involved.
     
  3. stage-x

    stage-x Then & Now Auto

    Well Jason, It is kinda hard to take anyone serious with that bird for an avatar.....:) :) :)
     
  4. 71Skylark_Texas

    71Skylark_Texas Scott M

    Hate to play devil's advocate here, but... isn't positive feedback also one -sided? I see people make comments all the time about positive feedback. Why aren't you posting about people commenting on positive opinions? Remember it's only one-sided.

    Should we not leave positive feedback? It could be positive for me. But what if the seller got an offer, five minutes after I called and money was already transferred, for alot more money, my feedback would not be so positive for him now.

    I say what happened, happened. Two guys have been judgingly looked at by all of us and some have commented on what they knew. Both men now have to find a way to get past the incident and hope the regain their friendship.

    As for the feedback given, maybe a little too much information. Could have minimized comments to only pertinent data.

    And yes, the "unhappy" side of the story has happened to me. Last summer, I drove 4 hrs to buy a '69 Mustang, only to arrive at the guys house and he told me he sold it that morning. Someone else had already talked to him and somehow he found the money before I arrived. He actually called me when I was about 30 minutes from his house to let me know the deal was done (and he knew I was on my way and the time I spent on the road). While I was not happy about the deal and wished I had the opportunity to counter his offer, the other guy was first in line.

    Good luck finding another trailer and I hope the deal runs smoothly.
     
  5. Sportwagon400

    Sportwagon400 Well-Known Member

    i agree with your comment and your view but in a positive comment the person who posts it does not complain about being hard done by and go into detail about how he was wronged. If the comment was more along the lines of that it would be ok


    for example be wary of dealings with an individual contact me for details :shock:
    a lot of those comments have been made then anyone who would be considering a transaction can ask for details

    AND i did not comment on the original post what i was referring to was the lynch mob that seemed to form in subsiquent posts

    As far as a positive post it rarly is followed by strangers also dissing a stranger with whom they have never had any dealings with

    thats my point :)

    fell free to slam me all you want :shock: I have thick skin more people should have as well

    as for Jason I understand your anger as well I hope you find a great deal on a trailer

    Ken
     
  6. 71Skylark_Texas

    71Skylark_Texas Scott M

    Ken, I hear ya. Not slamming on you, just playing devil's advocate to keep the playing field even (really it was just to change the subject, :grin:).

    However, in all seriousness, I think people had every right to comment on what information was presented. Because once Jim presented another side of the story, the lynch mob stopped. Actually, they have all been PMing Jim and Jason to get details. Ahhhh! the cycle continues. It might be too late, but I hope not. I hope both men calm down and work out their friendship.

    So anyhow, was that really your point or was that the point of what you think most people think (there I go again changing the subject). Oh never mind. I'm going to bed. I'm tired.
     
  7. CJay

    CJay Supercar owner Staff Member

    The way it went down is exactly as I described it.

    I feel bad it came to this. This is certainly not how I wanted this to go down. I just felt wronged and I had to say something about it. Your actions have consequences and I couldnt in good concience give a pass to Jim on this. For the record, Jim did apologize and said he "F-ed" up when I finally called to find out what was going on. But he did not call me. I found it to be a bit insencere. I feel he knew exactly what he was doing when he did it. "F-ing up" to me means that you went into something with the best intentions and by extenuating circumstances beyond your control, produced an unintended result, F-ing you or the person you were dealing with. I dont belive this was the case.

    Am I saying you should never do business with Jim again? Of course not. But like any other buyer/ seller feedback, you should keep it in mind when dealing with other board members. Good or bad.

    Should I of not posted the details Ken? I dont know the answer to that. I understand your point and I'll take that into consideration if there is a next time. Which I hope there wont be. Whats done is done. I presented what happened and Im going to move on.
     
  8. mjkinga

    mjkinga Well-Known Member

    Everyone will alway's agree to dis-agree. I myself think if you made a deal an accepted an offer, you made your deal and you didn't have to accept it. For example: If you post something here on the forums for sale for say $800 and for instance PaulGS was the first to respond then he get's first dibs. But, some of you are saying if you posted later and wrote screw this guy PaulGS I'll give you $850 to skip him and the other's before me to sell it to me now. Then that's ok too? You make a deal and you stick to it. I've lost money because I've rushed making a deal to get the money and could of made 25% more if I waited and got the offer I recieved a few day's later. You win some and lose some but this would make me weary on buying anything from him at this point because of the fact. My $.02
     
  9. bmcmillan

    bmcmillan Dented Hood Tach

    When buying something from anybody!
    Always put a down payment on your purchased item.
    Should have sent a $100.00 to show your good faith in purchasing.
    I also was recently caught in a similiar situation.
    Lesson learned.
     
  10. droptopron

    droptopron Active Member

    I wonder if that would have mattered? If he is chasing the last dollar he could always use the same cop-out "I F-ed up! I am sorry you sold your rare collectible to fund the purchase! I'll send you back your $100 and include some Happy Face stickers for your trouble".
     
  11. THEGSX

    THEGSX Professional 66 GS Nut !!

    Jason my sincerest apology's to you..you have been a great friend to me and I always cherished our friendship...I also have other friendships that I cherish equally ...in conversation with my other friend that it was made clear that I had promised him the trailer over a year ago if it were to come up for sale...and with that...I felt obligated to sell it to that person...and in retrospect I wish never had the F'n trailer because at the end of the day I'd rather have my firends...
     
  12. staged67gspwr

    staged67gspwr "The Black Widow"

    Come on guys maybe it was just a misunderstanding on Jims part,but he`s appologizing and you know Jim is good people he`s a stand up guy theres no reason to end a friendship over this you guys know eachother for so many years come on guys make up there is no reason for being upset whatever it is it is,life is too short to hold something against someone,i hear people that i know dropping like flies,its not worth it,be friends!:beer :beer
     
  13. Jim Weise

    Jim Weise EFI/DIS 482

    Let's move on folks..
     
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