HHO Generator Viability

Discussion in 'Wrenchin' Secrets' started by QPsychosis, Apr 12, 2011.

  1. DaWildcat

    DaWildcat Platinum Level Contributor

    It's obvious he wasn't going uphill, isn't it.

    Devon
     
  2. sailbrd

    sailbrd Well-Known Member

    This device violates the primary rule of everything, "there is no such thing as a free lunch."

    In order for you to have enough HHO (or Browns gas as it is commonly called) for meaningful energy you would have to have a enough of the stuff (as thesilverbuick said) to provide meaningful amounts of energy. This is not possible with the equipment described. I have a friend who is really into all this kind of stuff and spent $1000's going to "schools" for this and trying to make it work. Would have been better off burning the money.
     
  3. TheSilverBuick

    TheSilverBuick In the Middle of No Where

    The one caviate to the potential for the physics to work is that the ion hydrogen (or I guess Na+ or OH-) work as a catalyst that break down hydrocarbons more completely, or create a situation where the expansion characteristics of the gas greatly increase. But it has been tried and tested throughly for DECADES, the catalyst effect and such aren't there.

    It'd of been OEM long ago by some car manufacturer if there was any emissions or fuel mileage benefits to it.
     
  4. bammax

    bammax Well-Known Member

    It was a 20 gallon tank. It was my old '95 Caprice. I would run it till it got down to a quarter tank and then fill up again. Always kept a quarter tank to keep the fuel pump cool. Basically once I started adding the oil I was getting roughly 220 miles as opposed to 200 without the oil. The first time I filled up without the oil mix I was right back at 200 miles to a tank. This was driving the same roads in the same way and was through 3 seasons of New England weather.

    Basically it coats the entire fuel system whcih prevents corrosion. Plus it helps to lube the fuel pump and some say it even helps coat the valves and cylinders, but I'm not sure about that. I was mainly using it to help keep the lines and stuff from rusting up plus to help keep the fuel pump running smooth and strong. The improved mileage was a side effect that I didn't expect.

    I did it for about 6 months and never had a single problem, although I imagine it would probably cause some issues for the cat after a long enough period of time.

    Another side effect that I didn't expect was that the exhaust had a sweeter smell to it. It would make possible exhaust leaks a bit easier to find I think.

    Basically it works by seperating the fuel from the water. The fuel pump picks up from the bottom of the tank and the oil forces the water to the top of the tank. That basically makes the fuel more concentrated which makes it more efficient. Plus the pump being cooled and lubed makes it work more efficiently also.
     
  5. TheSilverBuick

    TheSilverBuick In the Middle of No Where

    Were you keeping track of the gallons or just watching the gauge? The sending unit would also be getting a coating, likely increasing resistance (ohms) which, iirc, would make the gauge read higher, so effectively hitting the 1/4 mark slightly later, and more fuel consumed by that mark.
     
  6. bammax

    bammax Well-Known Member

    I thought of that. Also figured maybe the sending unit was floating higher (more buoyant on oil). When I filled it at the 200 mile mark I was seeing fewer gallons to fill. Deffinetly something going on there.

    This is what got me to try it. Don't need to read every remark if you don't want to. I did because I was skeptical, but it's a long read :laugh:

    http://www.ls1.com/forums/showthread.php?t=91206
     
  7. QPsychosis

    QPsychosis Comfort over Speed

    While we are on the subject of increasing gas mileage, has anyone ever heard of Tom Ogle and his (supposed) 100 mpg Ford Galaxy? Though it sounds much more far-fetched than anything listed here thus far, there is, again, something of a sound science behind the idea. Of course, I've only ever seen the thing listed on conspiracy theory websites, so it is not extremely credible, but it's an interesting read nonetheless.

    And it just occurred to me that I still can't post links, so I'll give a quick overview (after this post, I should be able to put up links, finally). Supposedly, a guy named Tom Ogle removed the carburetor from his Galaxy, hooked up some fancy configuration of vacuum hoses and heating coils from his gas tank directly to the engine, and was able to run the thing, quite literally, on nothing but the fumes.

    Now, theoretically speaking, it makes sense. After all, the purpose of the carburetor and fuel injection systems are to get the gasoline as close to a gaseous state as possible, are they not? Gasoline, in its liquid state, does not burn (or so I've been told), it is the fumes that actually catch fire and combust. Realistically speaking, however, I am forced to wonder just how well the system actually worked, for, as I've demonstrated already, I know very little about the mechanics of an engine.

    Thoughts?
     
  8. QPsychosis

    QPsychosis Comfort over Speed

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