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Discussion in 'Small Block Tech' started by buickgs350, Aug 21, 2009.

  1. mike s

    mike s Well-Known Member

    I watched your video of your car. What distance are you running. It looks short. You need alot of gear and converter for that short racing.:grin:
     
  2. buickgs350

    buickgs350 Well-Known Member

    365 feet. In those runs I was only able to run at 3/4 throttle too, because if I popped the secondaries open all the way it would just bog due to my stock manifold with stack of spacers adapters and a boggy old holley.
     
  3. TABuickMike

    TABuickMike Michael Tomaszewski Jr

    What happens if you swap the stock intake for ours? Its tough to say being your setup seems to have weird hiccups but it might not bog with our intake because of the more evenly flowing ports and thus better fuel delivery. I've personally talked to people over the phone who called and said that they had hesitation or bogging with their car and once they swapped the stock one to our intake it went away and the car picked up. Buuut there seems to be a bunch of unknown variables going wacky here so it may not be the same, just a thought and idea to contribute to the troubleshooting. If you can find a higher CFM carb to borrow try throwing it on and seeing what it does, if it helps at all even if its a little out of a perfect tune.
     
  4. monetpit73

    monetpit73 big john

    well, went to the track sat nite with mixed results. gained 7/10s, so it ran 15.90s.unimpressed an very unhappy. im done, or so it seems. car runs flawless, just not as qiuck as i had hoped. so it is for sale. check the for sale adds for more info.need the cash to move on.:Do No:
     
  5. mike s

    mike s Well-Known Member

    365 feet????:shock: WOW.
    I thought you had a TA intake???
    Your car will bog without enough timing. Whats your timing at now?? If its low comp dont be afraid of some initial. Im having a hard time blaming your carb and trans right now. Try disconecting your secondarys and trying it. See if it pulls clean and we can go from thier.
    If you have a cam larger than stock youll need a better stall converter and some 3:73 gears to get it moving. Your burn out showed it will carry thru but no bottom end to get it started.
     
  6. mike s

    mike s Well-Known Member

    Monepit.. Why sell that car. It looks bad.:TU:
    Whats your cam numbers. I havent been impressed with the Comp cams for the Buicks. Also your car is heavy and with that gear in your signiture It could use alot more. Im guessing your putting out around 300hp, just a guess if the car is as heavy as I think it is.
     
  7. Doug Ray

    Doug Ray Well-Known Member

    Are you using the factory (resistor) wire to power your ignition?
    If you are, then this would be a problem.
    I run a worked 800 Q-Jet on a Poston intake and my 350 loves it and could possibly use a little more cfm. You are just over looking something. We both have about the same set up and I go mid-upper 14's.
    I am still running the Comp 268H, Poston, Hooker Super Comps. 2 1/2 exhaust, B&M Holeshot 2500 converter, 3.42 gears.
    Doug
     
  8. monetpit73

    monetpit73 big john

    :confused: :confused: factory resistor?? i dont think i am. its wired direct, an grounded to the firewall. if it were wired to the resistor, where is it located??? i do have a stock 800 cfm q-jet i could use. STOCK being the issue. my 750 has a lot of mods done. it leaves GREAT, goes into sec HARD, but third is blaaaaa. oh an im not selling the car, just the engine!!! lioke i said, it RUNS great, just not that quick. im open to all suggestions, as i really DONT want to sell it, im just really frustrated!!! i know its not a race car, but man, its just to slow. when it was a fuel issue, it ran 15.50s!!! where am in losing so much??? better carb,better response, solid fuel pressure, timings right, good dist an coil, an slower!!??
     
    Last edited: Sep 21, 2009
  9. Doug Ray

    Doug Ray Well-Known Member

    When I first did my motor I switched to a Pertronix dist. and I used the factory power supply stupidly not realizing it only put out 6 volts versus 12. The motor ran fine until I would get on it. All I'm saying is there has to be some minor detail that you over looked. Did you run it WOT while watching a fuel pressure gauge? I also had this issue. I ended up having to go with a carter race pump to keep up with the demands of my 350.
    My Q-Jet is set up to be all in @ WOT, I dont know off hand what hanger etc. I'm running.
     
  10. mike s

    mike s Well-Known Member

    Monepit... What trans, stall and what are your shift points. What rpm are you trapping and what are your cam specs.
     
  11. K0K0

    K0K0 Jamie

    Hey Ryan our track is 384ft.
    Jamie
     
  12. gsjohnny1

    gsjohnny1 Well-Known Member

    john,
    i miffed at why it falls flat in 3rd. maybe gas, but you have a good pump. maybe need to install a fuel pressure guage to see where its at on top end. maybe its a lousy cam for the gear ratio. moving 'tons of fun' really needs more gear. we run 3.73's. i would never go below that..if your racing.
    you know what. i think everybody needs to go back to the thread about zanes 73 apollo and look at what that car has. if he's flying and we're not, we are not doing it right.
    and...T/A....where is that s/p intake you promised us. 350's need it bad!!
     
  13. monetpit73

    monetpit73 big john

    as far as fuel pressure goes, its solid at 7 pounds at top end. this car ran 15.50s yrs ago with a smaller converter,an a huge timing an fuel disadvantage. timing was at 25 total, an pump regulator was junk. as i stated it leaves like a rocket. tires squeel all through first, an BARK HARD in sec an pulls!! third is still poop. cam is a comps 268h it is a baby cam, but dang!! it would puke out at 4500 in third 2 yrs ago, an still ran 15.50s.
     
  14. buickgs350

    buickgs350 Well-Known Member

    That racing was early this year guys, I do have the ta intake on now and the bog has been gone, theres no bog it just doesn't have any jam.
     
  15. TABuickMike

    TABuickMike Michael Tomaszewski Jr

    At least the bog is gone that'll help a little bit, try borrowing a bigger carb and see how it runs that way you know if it helps or not without spending any $
     
  16. buickgs350

    buickgs350 Well-Known Member

    Holy Mike, I was looking through your flikr pics, you've got a lot of really interesting pictures there! It's neat to see how you guys cast the blocks and design the ports on certain heads and stuff. Very cool! Can't wait to burn down there in the big old Buick to check it all out.

    O ya, I was going to ask you what the color was that your car ended up being painted, the light blue, is it a Buick color? I think Ive seen a 69 with the same shade of light blue and that's exactly how I want mine to be.
     
  17. TABuickMike

    TABuickMike Michael Tomaszewski Jr

    I honestly dont know how they painted the car, all I know is I bought it at the 2007 Barret Jackson auction here in Scottsdale (it was lot #1 haha) and it said it had new paint and its obvious that when looking at it up close its a Maaco paint job.

    I dont know if they took the original blue and added some silver and metal flake to it or just picked a color from a different year or entirely different car but its definitely more silver with a bit more green to it almost compared to the correct color because I tried to have it paint matched so I could have some paint mixed up so I could paint my GS hood but we couldn't get it right. But if you find a color that suits you have em paint it up like that, I don't know what mine is, I have the previous owners info and I was gonna call em back when I got the car but never did, they probably wouldn't have any information about it anyways. You'll see what I mean when you come down and visit. My mom likes the color too, I just for some reason prefer the correct Stratomist blue like this:

    http://v8buick.com/showthread.php?t=188727
     
    Last edited: Sep 23, 2009

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