Extremely Hard Cold Starts

Discussion in 'Small Block Tech' started by 71skylark3504v, Dec 17, 2013.

  1. Steve Craig

    Steve Craig Gold Level Contributor

    That's a Summer mix.
    Gotta have the -49 mix this time of year.:laugh:
     
  2. 71skylark3504v

    71skylark3504v Goin' Fast In Luxury!

    Looks like my dual PCV valve setup was drawing in too much vacuum. I left the intake PCV and put a push in breather. Hopefully the rear main oil leak isn't too bad.
     
  3. Jim Weise

    Jim Weise EFI/DIS 482

    Your right, was thinking about this earlier..

    Yellow wire comes from the R terminal on the starter, and is spliced into the cloth covered coil + resistance wire.

    Test proceedure is to warm the car up fully, to get the resistance wire to heat up, then disconnect the coil, crank the engine, and insure that you have cranking voltage on the coil + wire. Within .3 of the voltage at the battery during cranking, probably around 10.5 volts or so.

    Sound like your confident in a solution, good luck.

    JW
     
  4. 71skylark3504v

    71skylark3504v Goin' Fast In Luxury!

    I appreciate all the suggestions guys. Thank You.
     
  5. sean Buick 76

    sean Buick 76 Buick Nut

    Buy a block heater
     
  6. TexasJohn55

    TexasJohn55 Well-Known Member

    Will it cure burned points, lack of a choke, intake leaks, cobbled up custom pcv system or fouled plugs?

    If it will, write a book and leave that chapter out.
     
  7. 71skylark3504v

    71skylark3504v Goin' Fast In Luxury!

    It might mask the problem. :laugh:
     
  8. ceas350

    ceas350 "THE BURNER"

    Do you have the heat stove plumbed into the air cleaner housing?
     
  9. Gary Farmer

    Gary Farmer "The Paradigm Shifter"

    Harsh.

    I rather like the idea of a block heater. It won't cure cancer or global warming, but it certainly would help with any car or situation where cold starts were a problem and nothing else was going to be modified.

    I think I'll put one on my car just to have, since I plan on making it a daily driver.

    Obviously, the ignition and choke will be in functioning order as well.
     
  10. 71skylark3504v

    71skylark3504v Goin' Fast In Luxury!

    No I have an open element air cleaner. Intake exhaust crossover is blocked as well.
     
  11. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member

    So how cold has it gotten in Houston, Texas?
     
  12. 71skylark3504v

    71skylark3504v Goin' Fast In Luxury!

    30s :mad:
     
  13. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member

    That's downright balmy:laugh:
     
  14. jay3000

    jay3000 RIP 1-16-21

    Have you checked the wheel bearings???
     
  15. Fox's Den

    Fox's Den 355Xrs

    Here, check this. I have this same problem on mine and I have an MSD system along with the MSD dist. It would do the same think Jim is talking about, almost starting as I release the key. Just before this the car was fine, starts faster than my Toyota. Try to wiggle the ignition with the key in and push it in and work it back and forth. After I did this the car started right up every time. So now I know there is a problem with the ignition in the steering wheel. I plug my MSD into the fuse box where the extra prong is that is marked Ign. I thought this might be the problem but it looks like my problem is with the ignition switch in the steering wheel.
     
  16. scott kerns

    scott kerns Silver Level contributor

    Now I know I wasn't the only one that caught this.............TRUE SO VERY TRUE unless you are in Texas in the summer time....or Florida in the winter time :laugh:


    Scott



     
  17. 71skylark3504v

    71skylark3504v Goin' Fast In Luxury!

    Update: My starter died. Started cranking slower and slower. When I was pulling it to swap in a new starter I found the yellow wire broken off. New starter and reconnected the yellow wire and the engine now turns over ridiculously fast and fires up immediately. I was so impressed with it that I put my "cobbled up" dual PCV rig back on. Rear main immediately started leaking again when I removed that earlier today. I will see how it starts up tomorrow morning.
     
  18. TexasJohn55

    TexasJohn55 Well-Known Member


    That is great! Problem solved. So I quess we could deduce that a combination of low cranking speed coupled with coil voltage being pulled below critical threshold because of dragging starter was your problem. Broken wire at starter was key to fixing it, all makes sense now doesn't it. I suspect that if you unhooked the yellow wire from the NEW starter that it might start anyway but I wouldn't want to put any money on it.

    I need to add broken yellow wire and toasted starter to the list that block heaters won't fix. :)
     
  19. 71skylark3504v

    71skylark3504v Goin' Fast In Luxury!

    Hoping I can make it to work on time tomorrow.:pray:
     
  20. TexasJohn55

    TexasJohn55 Well-Known Member

    You must have a ton of blowby to need 2 PCV's or is it just a typical rope seal problem?
     

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