Discussion on the 10.5 limited outlaw class

Discussion in 'Race 400/430/455' started by Bobb Makley, Aug 16, 2005.

  1. bobc455

    bobc455 Well-Known Member

    What does this mean:

    'The use of any agents other than nitrous oxide as part of, or mixed with, this pressurized fuel system is strictly prohibited."

    Do you mean that you cannot put a fuel into the nitrous oxide cannister? (Nitrous is not a fuel)

    (doesn't really matter because I am illegal for this class anyhow)

    -Bob C.
     
  2. Gmachine Lark

    Gmachine Lark Well-Known Member

    I have been watching this with some interest...

    Question. If no jericos are legal then what manual transmissions are legal? you have excluded every aftermarket manual basically.

    wondering...
    George in dc
     
  3. 10sec 455

    10sec 455 Well-Known Member

    Why would a jerico not be legal? I can see a clutchless trans being illegal. jerico has a trans that has to use the clutch to be shifted, I think its the dr4.
     
  4. Gmachine Lark

    Gmachine Lark Well-Known Member

    Yeah I know . In the rule list above though it says "lencos libertys,jericos etc"
    I guess the wording should be "Clutchless transmissions illegal"

    Im not putting a rebuilt taxicab transmission in my racecar ! :grin:
     
  5. 10inchbuick

    10inchbuick Midwest Buick Mafia

    George The trans section will be changed I have discussed this with Rick C it will read no planetary type or clutchless transmissions.They will allow a manual tans but must be shifted using a clutch.Jerico is the only company I know of that has a manual trans that will hold up to big hp that isn't clutchless.So this will be taken care of.

    I also would like to change the dry sump weight hit 100lbs is out of line.The hp gain from a drysump is no way worth a 100lb hit.The air to water intercooler weight hit should be higher than 75lb considering on some combos a a-w i-c will provide a 100 + hp gain
     
  6. Buicks4Speed

    Buicks4Speed Advanced Member

    Kevin is right-on. I figured I would update the rules all at once instead of changing them little-by-little. I would like to see someone try to grab some gears. I figure the only guy crazy enough with a nasty power adder would be George......Well.......??? :Do No: I try to update this earlier but my internet is kicking my azz....
     
  7. Gmachine Lark

    Gmachine Lark Well-Known Member


    Just making sure. All I can say is -- who's your daddy! :3gears:
    I cant wait really. It should be fun !

    and then the whooooole aluminum block thing came up....
    George in DC
     
  8. BillMah52

    BillMah52 Well-Known Member


    And how many are you ordering George?????? Hmmmmmmmmmmm??????? :)
     
  9. Buicks4Speed

    Buicks4Speed Advanced Member

    :puzzled: Ohh hell, here we go....Good thing I'm in line for a block too. Good thing your a N/A guy. I ain't telling you no secrets....... :Brow: I need to go back on a few posts and erase a few things........... :laugh: We'll see who's got the best idea for power.........It should be interesting......
    Although, I can't say I could make 1200hp n/a.....Let's hope I can find it on a bottle.... work with the small tire stuff much?? Just know, It's on Brother! I just want to see you do it rowing thru gears..... :spank:
     
  10. Gmachine Lark

    Gmachine Lark Well-Known Member


    This should be a lot of fun.
    I doubt even NA at that tall deck height I can get that much power with the current heads. Maybe 8-900 and then that blue bottle. 4.500 bore isnt big enough and the pushrods would be too long at that deck height --- woops secret.
    I have a bunch of friends that run the 10.5 tire class locally plus I have set up a few A/S (stock eliminator with a stick ) cars and a Top Stock car with a stick---- soooo...
    I have a plan . Just as long as I get to race heads up, I'll pretty much be happy.
    George in DC
     
  11. Buicks4Speed

    Buicks4Speed Advanced Member

    :boring: He HE....

    SWEET! Yeh, we're lucky we don't get charged "long distance" for as long as Buick pushrods have to be. Makes it a challenge with a good cam and stabilty. I know my last set of telephone polls were 9.600". BTW, start working on those excuses... :spank: look forward to the fun. Should turn into a great class..... I'm with you, as long as it's heads-up! I'll be happy! :TU:
     
  12. alan

    alan High-tech Dinosaur

    Maybe turbos aren't a bad choice after all! Milder cam, head flow a little less important...... :grin:
     
  13. nitrousfish

    nitrousfish Dave Fisher

    Sorry I missed the chat ,couldnt log in...

    All I got was the white screen when I opened the Buickchat. Also had a lot of trouble logging in..kept kickin me out sayin I had the wrong name. It's aggravating mostly coz my computers a slow POS. Sorry I missed it but I'm goin to be ready to race in a month or two and I aint scared.....fish
     
  14. Buicks4Speed

    Buicks4Speed Advanced Member


    Sorry you couldn't make it. We should have the official preliminary rules within the week. We'll leave them posted in case they need "minor" revision's or add-on's but all in all they should be set. Once 1 Nov rolls around, there won't be any changes and the rules will be set for 06.

    Be looking for you in the staging lanes in 06' Fish. Don't be scared, just be ready. :Brow: :TU:
     
  15. nitrousfish

    nitrousfish Dave Fisher

    Thanks Rick...

    I'm much happier knowing good parts are going into it this time. Plus good parts are going on top too...I will consult with you on cam selection when I get closer to the bottom end completion. I will be starting with a set of Burek ported TE's and matching Wildcat 4500 intake on a 12:1 464.

    BTW I'll need a set of headers if anyone has a set they can let go. Wish I could fly to KS and steal Garrisons :laugh: those are Nice headers. They would be wasted on me coz my racecar sits outside,hence the primer paint.

    Thanks to everyone who thought of putting together a Limited Street minded Buick race,I will be there no matter what it takes.Period.

    Dont take the scared thing the wrong way,its not a tactic of any sort..I am just so da*& stoked there is a group of folks who think the same way I do and no matter how everyone else runs I'll be happy no matter what...coz its about everyone...no one will lose in this deal..we all win.

    The next logical step is gettin all the BOP world in on this. I know of a couple nasty Pontiacs like Ray Cox ,Pontiac Dude and Lil Jack that would be kickass to be in the mix.

    fish

    :TU: :TU: :TU: :TU: :beer :beer :beer :beer :TU: :TU: :TU:
     

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