Automatic emergency braking at speeds up to 90mph required under new rule

Discussion in 'The Bench' started by Dano, Apr 30, 2024.

  1. Dano

    Dano Platinum Level Contributor

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  2. Mark Demko

    Mark Demko Well-Known Member

    What should be required are smart drivers!
     
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  3. mbryson

    mbryson Owner of Ornery grandma Buick


    Maybe actual driver training would be a good thing? Recertification every few years (that's a rabbit hole for sure)
     
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  4. TrunkMonkey

    TrunkMonkey Totally bananas

    Butt in driver's seat, phone put away and left alone.

    If I had a nickel for every person I saw with a phone in their hand behind the wheel, I could afford to buy out Elon Musk and have money left over to re-chrome my bumper.
     
  5. Mike B in SC

    Mike B in SC Well-Known Member

    I guess I will be keeping my old car & truck forever!
     
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  6. Joe B

    Joe B Well-Known Member

    If you’re going 90 and this thing suddenly decides to throw out the anchors you better hope the guy behind you is equipped with it, too.
     
  7. gun-G

    gun-G Well-Known Member

    Where can I drive 90mph?
     
  8. timesublime

    timesublime Well-Known Member

    I-25. Not legally, but its a common thing.

    Texas idiot on motorcycle... Start at 3:06
     
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  9. Mark Demko

    Mark Demko Well-Known Member

  10. Ken Mild

    Ken Mild King of 18 Year Resto's

    What happens though, if you see an 18 wheeler bearing down behind you after the car has gone into panic braking mode? Is it also going to take evasive action for you? Or is it going to be like the early Airbus's auto-pilot features that when you got too low, it took over and landed for the pilot because it "assumed" since he was low, that is what he wanted to do, not allowing him to pull up, and then it lands in the woods and blows up into a beautiful inferno? Yeah I know, some will say it is not always a doomsday scenario. But one thing I have learned over my 6 decades is that if you can imagine it happening, then it is possible.
     
  11. Dano

    Dano Platinum Level Contributor

    We're all (anyone buying a new car) forced to pay for all this coddling & compensating for bad/distracted drivers. I did a quick calculation when they mandated back up cameras & the $/life saved was quite significant & yes, it's cold but we put a cost on life every day and often not very smartly.
     
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  12. pbr400

    pbr400 68GS400

    A friend has a VW Atlas and it has the automatic braking. My wife drove it and hated the false alarms it would throw. It would mistake a curb for an infant playing with kittens or something, and slam the brakes on when you were trying to park. I’ve read conplaints where drivers would be leaving a parking lot with an incline, need to step on it to get into traffic, and the radar(?) would ‘see’ the road due yo the angle and stop-partway into the lane. No thanks.
    Patrick

    https://www.vwatlasforum.com/threads/automatic-post-collision-braking-system-issues.2479/
     
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  13. Joe B

    Joe B Well-Known Member

    The new system is supposed to be able to work from up to 90 mph.
     
  14. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member

    My new Honda Accord has this, and honestly, I don't mind it one bit. I have it set at the most sensitive. It has NEVER slammed on the brakes in the year I have owned the car, but it will light up an orange "BRAKE" in the dash pod, and the Heads Up Display. Usually happens when I am changing lanes and the car thinks I am too close, but I am not. It will also happen when the car in front of you stops suddenly. The adaptive cruise control will do that as well. I had a truck move very slightly into my lane on the highway, and it disconnected the CC until the truck moved back. Again it didn't brake the car, but it beeped at me, and air resistance slowed the car anyway. The car is a Hybrid, and it has regenerative braking. You can set that up so that it is on all the time. It will slow the car with the generator resistance, so the car slows as you lift off the accelerator. I very rarely have to use the brakes, it's near one pedal driving. Another reason the car warns me to brake as I very rarely need to touch the brake pedal. Again, I don't mind any of it, it makes the car safer to drive IMHO. I also appreciate the Blind Spot Monitor in the mirrors. That works really well. It lights up when there is a car next to you, and there have been a couple of times it warned me and I didn't immediately see the car. It all takes a little getting used to. Not a big deal to me.
     
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  15. Waterboy

    Waterboy Mullet Mafia since 6/20

    Timesublime,
    I watched the video you posted at 5 AM this morning while I was sipping my coffee and eating some cupcakes. I almost had to turn it off two different times because my heart rate was so high. That guy, and others like him are flat out crazy! I’ve owned motorcycles my entire life, and I do like to go fast, but not like that! Have a great day. :)
     
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  16. Mark Demko

    Mark Demko Well-Known Member

    You do not find it intrusive at all?
    A couple years ago wife and I rented a Ford cargo van from U Haul to pick up 10 of over 200 Collies from a hoarding situation in Illinois, it was a 22 hour day starting at 2am, so I got pretty familiar with the van.
    On the turnpike at 2:30 am the headlights kept switching from hi beam to low beam, I figured it had auto dimming, it did, but it was annoying!!
    Traffic a half mile on the opposite side would trigger the sensor “Nope, we ain’t having this” I figured how to turn it off. A couple hours later the steering wheel was tugging on my hand “WTF now” it had that lane departure feature!
    VERY unnerving!! Well I figured out how to shut that off too.
    Other than those two annoyances, it was a nice van.
    NOW that blind spot monitor for the mirrors IS nice, even an educated alert driver has had a vehicle “in the blind spot”
     
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  17. Dr. Roger

    Dr. Roger Stock enthusiast

    My wife's new Hyundai Tucson has automatic braking, auto lane control, hands free cruise, auto dimming, yada yada. I went through all the menus and turned all that stuff off except for a couple of the warning beepers (somebody in your blind spot, somebody passing behind you when you're backing up, etc.). Unfortunately, when you turn off the front collision thing, it reloads when you shut the vehicle off and restart it. I told my wife it is a good thing to have but she's never had an accident in 45 years of driving and didn't want that on. I didn't tell her I couldn't turn it off so she is blissfully ignorant.

    My sister had a Ford years ago that had auto headlight dimming. They were driving down a back country road and an old truck was in front of her. The car kept switching from bright to dim behind this guy. He finally slammed on his brakes and got out ready to beat someone's ass and hollering "why do you keep flashing your lights at me." My sister and my elderly mother were sitting in the car scared to death of this screaming redneck. Sister told him she had no control over the dimmers and apologized. He finally got back in his truck and left. Shook my sister up pretty good and she got rid of that car a short time later.
     
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  18. Ken Mild

    Ken Mild King of 18 Year Resto's

    I'm with you on the lane departure and auto-dimming thing. I like to drive my vehicle myself. To be honest, more than ever now, I am blinded by headlights. Part of it is new headlight technology is blinding people straight up. They are too bright. But part of it also are comatose drivers ignoring their headlight setting, so they and I would probably benefit from the auto dimming feature. The lane departure thing drove me nuts when we rented a full size Ford Expedition to go to South Carolina a few years back. I was bitching constantly about something being up with the steering and my kids were laughing at me and told me about the setting. So I asked them to tell me how to disable it, which I did immediately.
     
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  19. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member

    Not at all, but the lane keep assist, I keep off. It tugs back n forth on the wheel. Everything else works great. I'm on a bulletin board like this for the Honda Accord. It's amazing the amount of bitchin n moaning some of these guys do. I guess I'm just easy going. 30 years in Civil Service taught me one thing, you can't please everybody.:)
     
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  20. John Codman

    John Codman Platinum Level Contributor

    I can't remember whether it was Sterling Moss or Phil Hill that said "When you see an accident situation ahead, nine times out of ten accelerate, the tenth time, pray."
     

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