I have some questions about the paint job on this cars. If you ordered your car in a SCO color, did they paint over a original color or was the SCO color painted directly at the plant? Did they use a red primer in 69? It looks like this car has been original silver metallic originally. And it looks like there are red primer beneath the silver paint. The cars that were delivered in two colors, were there both colors also inside the door openings. On this car it's not 2 different colors in the door openings, it has only been silver, who is a original color. I suppose the SCO code on this car, have to be the color, since the paint code is missing on the firewall tag. I really will appreciate any help and answers about this.o No: :idea2: There have to be other cars with SCO codes on their firewall tag, would have been nice to see some of this tags or the info about them.
I believe the number after the SCO on the body tag is simply a sequential number assigned to each SCO car. It is not another manufacturer's paint code, or a combination of Buick/GM paint codes. The car would have had the SCO paint over the factory primer, no other paint.
Hi and thanks for the answer. Then I think the SCO code , don't have anything to do with the paint, since the bottom color on the car is a original 69 color. But I still don't understand, why the color code isn't there, if the SCO code is for something else. It's a mystery.
"Then I think the SCO code , don't have anything to do with the paint, since the bottom color on the car is a original 69 color. But I still don't understand, why the color code isn't there, if the SCO code is for something else." I have a copy of a 1969 SCO cowl tag and the buildsheet for the same vehicle. The tag has the "SCO" in the same place as yours and at the bottom of the buildsheet it lists both the SCO number and the reason for the SCO, which had to do with a special paint color. Now, looking at your firewall tag, ST69-44467FL1 230870 BDY TRIM 188 SCO-1946-B PNT O4D and using the same info as above, means that your car would be SCO # 1946 , and the placement of the SCO would refer to a special color paint, with a "B" black convertible top. You say the original color was a factory color, however it could have been a slightly different color that you are assuming was a factory color. If you had found your original buildsheet it would have listed what created the need to make it a SCO car, but we don't have that info. However, from the placement we can tell it was due to something about the paint. If it had something to do with the interior the SCO would have been stamped in that area. Now does this help clear anything up? Duane
Chris, we both know what a - in the paint code is, Q code car. His car was built in the 4th week of April, a Spring car, might have to remove the carpet to find out a trace of the original color.
Duane Thanks for the info. So now I know that the SCO is about the paint color. I could be a 2 color paint job, thats the reason I asked about, if there would have been 2 colors in the door opening too? Is there anybody who have the original plant build papers for Buicks, like Pontiac and Cadillac historical services? I understand that Sloan has something for early 70,s Buick. Do you still have your X-camino. It looks like a very nice and special car.:TU: Louie What is a Q code car? I will repaint the car next year sometime and then I can remove the all the paint on the car , too see what original color it is? This car has been tru some amatur restorasions and it looks like it is painted black everywere inside the car. I will take some pictures later today of the silver paint, that I can see on the car. Your fireglow orange 69 GS looks great.:TU:
So now I know that the SCO is about the paint color. "I could be a 2 color paint job, thats the reason I asked about, if there would have been 2 colors in the door opening too?" I don't believe your car had a tu-tone paint job. Usually if the car was tu-tone the car had the vinyl top chrome pieces installed and the roof was "painted" a different color then the bottom of the car. Your car is a convertible so they could not paint that. Also, I don't believe the factory would arbitrarily choose a bodyline to create a tu-tone paint job. They were in the business to build cars, not one-offs. Changing the color in the paint guns is one thing, while taking the time to mask off a car with special striping is another. Is there anybody who have the original plant build papers for Buicks, like Pontiac and Cadillac historical services? The answer to this is no, that's why we wanted you to find the buildsheet. Do you still have your X-camino. It looks like a very nice and special car. Yes, and thank you. I just dropped it off at a friends house so they could enjoy it for the summer while I concentrate on finishing my 71 GSX. Duane
I don't believe your car had a tu-tone paint job. Usually if the car was tu-tone the car had the vinyl top chrome pieces installed and the roof was "painted" a different color then the bottom of the car. Your car is a convertible so they could not paint that. Also, I don't believe the factory would arbitrarily choose a bodyline to create a tu-tone paint job. They were in the business to build cars, not one-offs. Changing the color in the paint guns is one thing, while taking the time to mask off a car with special striping is another. Duane[/QUOTE] Exactly...........SCO 1946 represents a solid color car. If it was a H.T. car the tag should have read SCO 19 46. The first number 19 would represent the lower body color and the 46 would be the upper body color. The upper body starts at the cars belt line and of course goes up. With a convertible top, you have no upper body. In the decade that followed GM solved the confusion by adding the letter "L" = Lower Body and "U" = Upper Body to the paint codes on Fisher Plates.
David, The SCO number for this car is #1946. This means that this is the one thousand nine hundred and forty sixth SCO car built in 1969, and that’s all it means.(This may be for A-bodies only, but I am not sure of that.) That is the only thing you can "deduce" from that number. The number has no paint codes etc built into it. I have the Fisher body tag info and a build sheet from another 69 SCO car and it also has the SCO stamped in the paint area. The SCO number for that car is SCO 821 and at the bottom of the build sheet it states” SCO 821 Prod Hood Fenders etc with Castilian Bronze …(then the paint codes)……. Wheels Chrome” This means the SCO for this car was generated due to the paint and wheels. The way you describe the SCO information may work for later year GM cars but it sure doesn’t work for 1969 or 1970, I checked. Sorry. Duane
Q code is the Fireglow Orange that was given to the Spring GS only, there were only 306 painted that color in spring of 69, 156 GS350's and 150 GS400's The paint code would read (- A or B) or ( - - ) yours reads - B
Thank you guys for the info.:TU: Have anyone checked with Buick about the paperwork for pre 70 cars. Is this papers destroyed or are they just keeping them for them self?
Thanks for the info Duane, that straightens me out. :TU: My appoligies for submitting the wrong info..... Is there any change left over from my .02 worth?
Hi , have you checked under the rear seat (in the spring) ? If by any chance your car were made or sold new in Oshawa,Canada (7th digit would be an I "or 1") you can contact GM Canada
Hi Donald. I have been looking under the seat, but I really didn't expect to find anything, because the car have new interior, some years ago. This car is built in Flint.MI. But I was told, that the car was sold new to CA. It was sold from LA area to Norway in 1999. There was some school papers, following the car, that a earlier owner had found in the car. And it says :Joel Butler 7404 Dayton, Hesperia. This guy was born in 1976. But I haven't been able too find him yet. In Norway, you can find 99% of the people in the phone catalog, but it's not like that in the USA, have I learned.:Comp: Anybody have any suggestions, how to locate people in the USA?o No: I have his birthdate too.
You may be able to locate him using one of the internet search sites, such as: http://www.publicrecordfinder.com/peoplefind.html "The acorn doesn't fall far from the tree." People often choose to live near where they grew up. There is a Hesperia in California and one in Michigan. Since you said the car was delivered to CA, I'd type his name into the people finder with a state of CA. Now look for matches that are 30-32 years old (the ages listed are often approximations). Next I'd narrow it down to people listed as living near the Los Angelos area, since that's where Hesperia is. So far, all of this is free. At this point, your list may be short enough that you're willing to pay the fee for more detailed information, which might include their exact birthdate. If none of this works, you may have to expand your search to nation wide, which could take a while for a common name such as his.
