1966 Electra spitting gas out the carb.... HEI Vacuum Advance tuning?

Discussion in ''Da Nailhead' started by Chaunce Dawes, Nov 6, 2021.

  1. Chaunce Dawes

    Chaunce Dawes Member

    I recently performed an HEI points conversion on my 1966 Electra, only with the help of you kind folks! I got to the point where all is hooked up properly, but left to go south for vacation, so didnt have the chance to fully finish. I cranked it once and fired, yet ran very rough, which I contributed to the vacuum advance needing adjusted. When I returned, I started the process and before I go too far, wanted to see if i should be concerned. I put a little fuel to start up because it sat for a while, and cranked with it firing. It still ran rough, but also spit some fuel back out of the carb, so I shut it off and came here just in case it was something more severe........ Is it due to the vacuum advance being too far retarded, the opposite, or something crazy? It ran wih no issues before the HEI fyi. Can anyone give me an idea if this is normal? Thanks!
     
  2. gsgtx

    gsgtx Silver Level contributor

    what is your timing set at
     
  3. 66electrafied

    66electrafied Just tossing in my nickel's worth

    Which carb do you have in it?
     
  4. Bigpig455

    Bigpig455 Fastest of the slow....

    Given the simplest answer is usually the right one.. whats the last thing you touched? I'm willing to bet its a base timing issue, and as Larry suggests I'd check timing first. It likely has noting to do with the carb.
     
  5. gsgtx

    gsgtx Silver Level contributor

    Larry i thought i said it in post #2. lmao :)
     
  6. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member

    Checking timing is something you do once the engine is running.:D The problem is static timing when installing a new distributor. That is more difficult with the big cap HEI. BTW, the OP did not have a timing light the last I heard.
     
  7. Bigpig455

    Bigpig455 Fastest of the slow....

    Larry, Joe, whoever...!!!
     
  8. Schurkey

    Schurkey Silver Level contributor

    I guess it depends on what you're used to.

    I'd have said the HEI is the easiest distributor on Earth to set static timing on. The only tools needed are a screwdriver or nut-driver to remove the cap and rotor, and a distributor wrench to loosen/tighten the distributor hold-down bolt.

    Put the crankshaft at "your choice" of degrees before (advanced from) TDC #1 (or #6, the only difference is where the rotor points.) Perhaps you want your initial timing to be 14 degrees advanced--put the crank at 14 degrees advanced, turning the crank in the normal direction of rotation. That keeps the slack in the timing chain from interfering with the results.

    Visually line up the pickup coil teeth with the reluctor teeth by turning the distributor housing. You'd feel the magnetic pull as you do so. When they're lined-up, tighten the distributor hold-down.

    With some practice, you should end up within a degree or two where you intend the timing to be.
     
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  9. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member

    I'm talking about the mechanical interference between the big cap and the front of the intake manifold, and sometimes the upper radiator hose. If you don't get the distributor in on the right tooth, the cap can hit when you go to turn the distributor while adjusting your preferred initial timing. Not saying this is always a problem, but it can be.
     
  10. Babeola

    Babeola Well-Known Member

    Nailhead distributor is on the back of the engine.
     
  11. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member

    Yes, but my remarks were general, not specifically concerning the OP's engine. I should have stated I was talking about the later Buick V8s. How close does the Big cap HEI come to the firewall in a Nailhead application? Any interference with the air cleaner?
     
    Last edited: Dec 5, 2021
  12. bhambulldog

    bhambulldog 1955 76-RoadmasterRiviera

    Maybe Chaunce went on a another vacation
     

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