13s, mid 12s?

Discussion in 'Small Block Tech' started by lespaul13, Dec 10, 2007.

  1. sean Buick 76

    sean Buick 76 Buick Nut

    I had to get to the exhaust shop and didnt want to wait for a freind with a trailer.....
     
  2. Nothingface5384

    Nothingface5384 Detail To Oil - Car Care

    sean would you recommend 3in with the tt kit, or should i just stick with the 2.5?
     
  3. sean Buick 76

    sean Buick 76 Buick Nut

    I'll be using 3" for sure with the turbos since over 600 hp would benefit forsure from the 3"
     
  4. Justa350

    Justa350 I'm BACK!

    Turbos don't like heat even though they produce assinine amounts of it. The more exhaust flow you have out of them the better. I have 2.5" outlets on my hybrids and stepped it immediately up to 3" full mandrel bent.
     
  5. chryco63

    chryco63 14's or bust!

    Okay, question: Myth or reality? I've heard that turbos don't like Flowmasters. I forget what about them exactly that turbos don't like, but perhaps that the flow characteristics (since they aren't like the average muffler) create too much backpressure? I'm curious. :)
     
  6. chryco63

    chryco63 14's or bust!

    Can anyone give any insight to the above query?
     
  7. alec296

    alec296 i need another buick

    flowmasters work on pulse of the cylinder and the turbo takes the pulse
    and uses it to spin turbo so its no longer a pulse when it hits the muffler
     
  8. Nothingface5384

    Nothingface5384 Detail To Oil - Car Care

    hey would turbos effect the scavaging of pulses that an X-pipe would create?
     
  9. rallye bob

    rallye bob Well-Known Member

    You are trading, tit, for tat, with this line of thinking...........:Dou:
     
  10. alec296

    alec296 i need another buick

    more than likely no, but might still work on twins but since pulse is used
    up in the spooling of turbo chances are slim
     
  11. Justa350

    Justa350 I'm BACK!

    Here's my .02 (actual value may vary). Go with a 3" mandrel bent X-Pipe exhaust system no matter what. It won't hurt a mild 350, and will allow virtually any amount of buildup down the road. Put the mufflers near the rear axle if you want the tone to be mellow.

    I ran that NA on my car and certainly picked up power over 2 1/4 h-pipe duals with no loss of torque. Anyone who fears torque loss should watch my little cruise video where my car spins the 31x18.5 Mickey-T's through 3 gears pre-turbo.

    Going with an aftermarket intake is a good idea. If not the X-Factor, I like the Poston S-Divider. If other areas of the engine are upgraded (cam head porting etc) it will pick up power. The fuel distribution will also improve, as will heat dissipation. Lighter weight on the nose is also worth traction via weight transfer if nothing else.

    This foundation will support nitrous or turbos later at no cost of drivability in the meantime.

    Last but not least, in fact last but should be first, is gears, converter, and a shift kit. Run the most aggressive gear you can deal with for your normal driving situations. From what I hear you spend more time fighting off import attacks than driving across the country so throw some 3.73's there and be done with it.

    The shift kit is next, ahead of the converter. It is fast, easy, cheap and really makes a big change in how quickly you can recover from a shift.

    The converter should be matched to the cam. The GS350-114 by Poston is a great all around cam that ironically has very good specs for a turbo build. If you are going all NA then you might want a hotter cam, but again, the stall will have to be matched to the cam so choose both with great thought.

    Have fun ripping the "looney tuners" a new one!
     
  12. PGBuick

    PGBuick Well-Known Member

    find a stock 455 and bolt it in, switch to 3.42 gears and find some traction - that'll go mid 13's easy with tuning. Add headers, converter and intake and yuo're in the 12's
     
  13. Turbo455

    Turbo455 James


    I have a 350 don't now if it is any good. I think the guy said it had a tapping noise. I would be willing to almost give it away. where are you located. I also have A 455 that smoked the bearings. It is not seized. let me know if you are interested.
     

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