12th Annual All Buick Open in Puyallup, Washington, June 11, 2005

Discussion in 'Other Buick Events' started by cjp69, Apr 21, 2005.

  1. cjp69

    cjp69 Platinum Level Contributor

    That's shame Randy, going to miss you there this year. I figured for sure you would have emailed me to volunteer to drive one of my cars down.... Oh well, still looking for a driver. :Do No:
     
  2. VandaLL

    VandaLL The Buick Life

    Chris! don't even tempt me... :ball: are you going to make any other events this season??
     
  3. cjp69

    cjp69 Platinum Level Contributor

    Yeah, I usually go to a couple of shows a year locally. Return to Renton July 9, NW Musclecar show on August 7 at Triple X in Issaquah, and the City of Snohomish show on Sept. 25 are the big ones.

    Here is a link that covers about 75% of the local shows in WA.
     
  4. Macjeeper

    Macjeeper MAC

    What class would a Buick powered Jeep fall into?
    Just wondering!
    Thanks, Mac

    1970 Kaiser Jeep J-3000 Gladiator P/U
    Suisun City, CA
    350v8, 2 bbl., T-18

    Moderator: California Full-Size-Jeep Association
    http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/CA_FSJA
     
  5. p.dow

    p.dow Active Member

    swap meet

    is there a swap meet with this show ?
    thanks
    paul
    (will be visiting in port orchard, wa that week... and will definetly take time out to visit show)
    :)
     
  6. cjp69

    cjp69 Platinum Level Contributor

    My guess is "Modified"
     
  7. cjp69

    cjp69 Platinum Level Contributor

    No swap meet, just a car show and street festival (non car show related). You should Todd (tjcole) on the board here a holler, he lives in Port Orchard and I think he is still coming to the show????
     
  8. tjcole

    tjcole 60's Buick nut

    Hi Randy,

    I'll be Buickless this year. I'll be going just to gawk at all the pretty cars :pp
    I'm bringing my wife and Mother-in-law who is visiting from El Salvador to show her what real cars look like!
    I'm still in the "acquiring money" stage for the '67 GS; **See my for sale posts everyone! :Brow: :laugh: **
    I almost have enough to get the engine done, then last but not least is the body & paint. I already have all the interior pieces I need to finish it off in boxes.
    When I get her done I'll come by your house. I'm going to paint it back to it's original color of Aquamarine but without the white top.
    See you guys this weekend!!

    Cheers,
     
  9. dukec

    dukec Platinum Level Contributor

    This show is for Buick cars only.

    I am a member of the Buick Street Rod Club and last year they made it clear that all cars had to be Buick bodied.

    A Buick with some other engine is OK, but a Buick powered anything other than a Buick is not.

    No Swap meet just a a great Buick show.

    Chris - What is the weather going to be like? I will be there no matter what. Just back from Anchorage so that I can go.

    :bglasses:
     
  10. wormwood

    wormwood Dare to be different

    Hey Duke. I'll be leaving the longview area around 6:00 if you wanna join me in going up there. Dan
     
  11. wormwood

    wormwood Dare to be different

    UM,...can someone post directions? coming from the portland area uo the I-5?
     
  12. Rick Henderson

    Rick Henderson Well-Known Member

    Wish I was there to see all the cars. How is the weather? I drove yesterday between two tornadoes in Kansas and Nebraska. One on each side of the freeway!
    I never heard that message that they practice on the radio before from the National Weather Service! The one with those irratating tones. I think the car that I was hauling hasn't been driven that fast in years :3gears:
     
  13. VandaLL

    VandaLL The Buick Life

    yeah i hear that.. we just got the 455 block back from the shop for my 72.. :) but there are tons of parts i need for it and just don't have the $$. i can't wait to see the ole 67 though, i think it will look outstanding all aquamarine! :TU: really hope to see you guys sometime this show season!

    hey, does anyone have pictures posted up yet?! :Do No:
     
  14. wormwood

    wormwood Dare to be different

    Woah

    What a dissapointing show. After such a great show last year, this show failed to impress me. Where were all the Grand Nationals? why was a 78 regal forced into the GN class then denied judging? What was with the "modified" class, one car was all original except for the fact that it was lowered 1 inch. What an awful job by who ever made these decisions. These are just the things i observed, im sure there were other gripes. Ill go next year but only if im not working, i won't go out of my way to return unless changes are made. :Do No:
     
  15. gotbuick

    gotbuick What, me worry?

    Dan,

    I feel your disappointment. I felt this last year, hence one of the big reasons I left the cars in storage for 05's show. The judges (IMO) are trying to shove non club members into a couple catagories so that their members have a better chance of getting a trophy. When you can widdle a class down to three cars then everybody in it wins.

    I knew the rules where a changing when they posted on this years flyer that the slightest modification to a stock car put it right into the "modified" class.

    Everyone knows about my fiasco with a judge in last years show. It really left a bad taste in my mouth. I vowed to "display only" my cars if I went again. See my angst in a thread I started last year on car show politics.
    :Comp:
     
  16. 71GS455

    71GS455 Best Package Wins!


    C'mon Jerry,

    You know the best car shows happen a 1/4 mile at a time! :TU:

    My father used to be the show chairman for the local Classic Chevy Club (55-57's). This was back in the late 70's or early 80's. I used to like to go to the shows with him, but I was really turned off to the car show idea as a result of seeing how the "adults" went about things.

    I saw more of it when I was around 17 or 18 years old. There was a small, local show. One of the sponsors was a body/restoration shop. Of course all of the top prizes went to cars that came out of their shop. My father has a 1969 912 Targa that was beautiful. He came in third. I had my 72 GS350 and ended up in 5th, I think. It was my first and last show.

    I'll stick to the track and bracket racing, where skill can beat dollars no matter who you know.
     
  17. Ol' Yeller

    Ol' Yeller Guest

    This is my chapter's show and as Director I have to stick up for some of these comments. If you are dissappointed in the judges then you are dissappointed in you and the attendees. The show is a PEER JUDGED show which means you get 2 ballots when you enter your car. Only people who enter their car vote on class winners.

    Jerry and Dan, rather than complaining I'd suggest that you join our chapter, volunteer to help, and find out what it takes to put on a show of this magnatude. You'd find out that we are a group of 50 dedicated Buick lovers just trying to foster an appreciation for the marque. To suggest that we are trying to add trophys for ourselves maligns honest people who work very hard to make sure reasonable people have a good time. We are not perfect and will make mistakes. There is no politics or agendas. Our group is actually a pretty fun group to have a beer with and talk old cars.

    The reason for so few GNS this year is that they didn't show up. I didn't think something so obvious needed explanation. The weather was iffy and if you remember the ones that came to our show in the past were mostly trailer queens. Given last years attendance, there probably won't be a GN class in 2006. We will probably be melding them back into the GS class and then splitting the GS class as it has grown too big. As to the modified class determination I will admit there is room for improvement. We will welcome any constructive suggestions that you may have for that class. As a chapter of the National BCA we feel it is important to recognize those cars that are not modified. That is why we have a separate class for modified. This year we may have gone a little overboard in defining modified but I can say with certainty that if you bring a lowered car, it will be put in the modified class. There were 140 cars registered in 2005. I don't call that kind of turnout for a Buick only event a "dissappointment".

    It is easy to complain but think about it from the other side. It takes almost all the human resources of my club to put this show on every year for 13 years. Planning for the next year's event begins a month after the current event ends. My club has to front all the expenses for the event and line up sponsors for each class. Every year we have to guess which classes will show up to make sure we have sized it correctly. Every year we get 1 or 2 people show up who come only for the trophys and a chip on their shoulder. They complain that their car is in the wrong class or the class is too big or the class is too small. The weather is too hot, too cold, too rainy, too sunny. They don't like where they are parked. They don't like the entry fee. The goody bags are too small or too big or have too much junk in them. They complain that we are a clique and vote for our own cars (not true by the way, every year more non chapter members win than chapter members). They are typically hostile and yell at chapter members who are volunteers just trying to make our guests feel welcome. Please note that I said 1 or 2 people have this attitude, The other 140-170 who come to enjoy showing their cars have a great time. They are the reason why we keep doing this year after year. This is the only Buick only event in the state of Washington. We have 13 years of success because we care about Buick lovers and give them what they want. If you guys don't participate we'll miss you but have a great time anyway.
     
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  18. gotbuick

    gotbuick What, me worry?

    Mr. Yeller,

    I have attended this event several years in a row. I do come for the enjoyment of seeing Buick's and showing mine. You are right, this is the ONLY all Buick show in Wa. I really admire the hard work that goes into the show.

    My complaint, if you will, is more geared toward what a judge can or can't do during a show. My last showing at this event was in 2004. I had an altercation with a judge that DID result in a shouting match. I was only partially upset that he had changed the class that I had been in for the last three years. My major disdain was that he crawled inside my car, which had the top and windows up, in order to scribble out the class letter I was in. I don't go into your car and do that. I thought we were guests. He could have left a note or something to that effect, but he took it upon himself to climb inside and make himself comfy. I felt violated. "Look don't touch" should apply for all.

    You make the comment that some people come for just a trophy. If that were not the case then no one would pay an entry fee and there would be "for show only" signs on all the cars. Let's face it when we are recognized by recieving an award we are proud. It makes the months and years in preparing our cars worth it. If it were only about driving any Buick to the show and getting oh's and ah's then I would run out and buy an 80's Somerset with bald tires and one spinner hubcap.

    I appreciate all the hard work your group puts forth each year. I may return again next year to "show" one of my cars. For now though I'll leave them covered up in my shop out of the public's eye.
    :(
     
  19. Ol' Yeller

    Ol' Yeller Guest

    Jerry,

    I understand that you are upset with how you see you were treated at 1 of our annual shows. There are 2 sides to every story and when I spoke to the volunteer (not judge) you refer to, I get an entirely different story, backed up by others who witnessed the event. You saw fit to trash us and him on this site , unfairly in our opinion, and I won't indulge in that bloodlust any further. You keep refering to our volunteers as judges. They are not judges. As I clearly stated in my earlier post, you and the attendees are the judges as this is a PEER JUDGED show. The people working there are volunteers (or hosts), not judges.

    As to my comment of people coming only for the trophies. You missed where I put the accent. I meant that some people come ONLY for the trophies. To complete the quote I said " and a chip on their shoulder". Most come to enjoy the cars and the company, and if they win a trophy, the day is a plus. If trophies are what you are mainly after, take your car to a BCA points judged event (you have to be a BCA member) and have your car judged soley on its own merits. They use a 400 point system. That way you won't be competing with a 80's Somerset with a bald tire (overstatement, of course you wouldn't be in that class in our show either). Of course, those events have very strict rules, many of which I doubt you would be comfortable with. Our event is not one of these. Our event is a friendly car show where people come to have a good time. The people judging the event (not the volunteers) often do recognize talent and skill but sometimes they vote for a particular car because they like that style.

    I am not asking you to bring your car to any of our future shows. Given your feelings that you have expressed here and in other posts, our show is probably not for you. I don't expect to change your mind. I just didn't want your impression of our show to be the one that is posted here as the definitive evaluation of this event. If you do come, leave the chip at home. You'll have a much better time.

    Greg Powers
    Director Puget Sound Chapter BCA
    BCA 33211
    ROA 8393
     
  20. gotbuick

    gotbuick What, me worry?


    Well Greg I guess you have validated my feelings on this matter as best you can. Although a more personal approach may have quenched the fire on this issue long ago.

    I recant all my past comments on the above mentioned car show and invite one and all Buick owners to meet Greg Powers and his whole gang at next years show. It's the greatest show on earth. (Next to WingLing Brothers of course) The sun is always out so bring plenty of sunscreen for the kids.

    Say, when is next years show Greg? Any dates???
    :Comp:
     

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