Anybody using an LC1 Wideband o2 sensor? If not let me know what you have. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Inno...r_Truck_Parts_Accessories?hash=item35a4bdf2a2
i'll be using an autometer 3378 gauge/sensor as it'll match the other guages i have in the car damn thing is 300 dollars though :-(
I've been using LM-1 w/ rpm adapter and I am very happy with it. I like being able to log runs at the track come home bring the unit inside with me and download the runs.
I recently installed an Edelbrock AFR meter and have been happy with its performance. I would say its downfall is that the LEDs that make up the "readout" are spaced in .5AFR incerments. 5 times less accurate than a digital readout in the tenths. It is on the inexpensive side for these things I believe at about $150?
I have an LM-1 and an LM-2. The rpm adapter is important if you want to log data. AF ratios without RPM are basically useless. Actually you need more input than that for meaningful tuning. Throttle position and manifold pressure help as well. I adapted a TPS and MAP sensor on my car. That gives you a much clearer picture of whats going on in various driving conditions.
the innovate units use a digital signal but you also need a lap top to use it. they make a dual sensor kit too which seems to be a lot more useful, unless you have a 4 cylinder. i was looking at the fast wideband but it is analog, not as good from what i have read.
I guess that I am not too interested in logging the data. I just want to know what the A/F ratio is during a WOT condition running down the track.
I have the LC-1 wideband in my car. I just converted one of my circuit boards to read thermocouples for the head temp and also read the LC1 analog channel. I welded the bung on the driverside right after the collector, 10 o'clock position. Just enough room to run to my radio delete panel. The LC1 modual sits just above my feet. I haven't logged any data yet just watch it at different load and rpm conditions. I found my quick fuel carbs have a nice and flat ratio between 5-6.3K. I was at 11.6! FAT! Two sizes down on all 8 put me at 12.4. I need one more size all the way around. I plan on 13.0:1 in the cool air so in the summer it's just a little fat. I going to change my program to mimik thier protocol so I can just hook thier nice software upto my serial port. Definitly the one to buy!:TU:
I run an AEM. Got a good deal from a member. You are supposed to be able to connect to a laptop but have not tried it yet. Really only good for constant throttle situations but still a big help in tuning. If you can get an LM for less than $250 that would be a great deal.
I follow you, however while driving down the track its difficult to monitor a digital readout that is changing rapidly. A severe lean condition can happen for a split second while your looking away. If you get most of the Innovate products you can add on data logging and RPM later if you feel its important.
Question for you guys. I have been thinking of purchasing the lm-2 model. They show one with 1 and one with 2 o2 sensors. Do you really need 1 on both sides? The price difference in the two quite a bit. Let me know what you guys think and have experienced. Thanks Peter
I have 2 sensors, actually I have an LM1 on the right side and an LM2 on the left side. I don't see any big advantage to running 2 sensors. One will give you more information than you can use. Spend the saved money on other inputs, such as throttle position and manifold pressure. Most OEM sensors (0-5volt) can be adapted to work as an input for the LM2.
Innovate Motorsports products: - Anyone have an opinion on which gauge is easier to read while driving... the LED readout or the Analog (needle) style? - How deep are the Red/Blue 'DB' gauges....more than 3/4"? ..... I'm considering the 3830 Auto Timer to use for display.... it's only 1/2" thick, so it can be mounted anywhere. - Any issues buying one setup for use on several cars? I realize I need a bung in each car, but what about wiring? Thanks!:TU:
I use mine on multiple cars. A guage, any kind of guage is not going to do much good. Both the LM1 and the LM2 have a recording function. You can download the data and analyze it on your PC. Heres the lm2 mounted in my buick. heres what the data looks like. Sorry, I left out the air fuel ratio on those graphs. I only have RPM and throttle position on that particular graph.
get ahold of Greg Gessler he is a dealer for innovate that is who we bought our dl32 from for data logging the pro-charged tube car it works great and gives you lots of info. plus you keep it in the buick community
I am thinking about the LM-2 which one do you like better? Doesn't the LM-2 have the ability to read the RPM?
