The Big Three - 30 years of denial

Discussion in 'The Bench' started by 69SkyInNJ, Nov 9, 2008.

  1. Junkman

    Junkman Well-Known Member

    If the right oil is used,engines won't sludge up,wether Ford or Toyota/Mitsubishi.


    This is the root cause of most of the financial and enslavement problems here. TRhis is easy to understand and most citizens don't know this about our banking system.


    http://federal-reserve.net/isaprivatelyownedcorporation.htm
     
  2. Topcat

    Topcat Got TORQUE?

    The truth is out there :TU:

    Thanks for the link....it made my day :pp


    Peace WildBill
     
  3. Big Bufford

    Big Bufford Well-Known Member

    Couldn't agree with you more. This is probably the governments way to scare us into thinking the only way to recover is to form some kind of global currency. Just wait until the elitist have control over all world markets (they basically do now anyway). This whole thing was manufactured!
     
  4. 71skylark3504v

    71skylark3504v Goin' Fast In Luxury!

    What is making these engines sludge up? Not changing the oil often enough or using poor quality oil? Doesn't make sense.:puzzled:
     
  5. whamo

    whamo 454 71 skylark custom

    I have spoken to several Toyota techs, they don't know what is causing the problem but in most cases the oil change interval has been exceeded. But they say they have seen the problem on cars that have been serviced on a regular basis. Toyota extended the warranty coverage on most of the affected models.
     
  6. TuBBeD

    TuBBeD Well-Known Member

    LOL! It doesn't matter because, when we die we won't have to worry about it so much.
     
  7. 71skylark3504v

    71skylark3504v Goin' Fast In Luxury!

    I'll just add this to the list of reasons I have for driving an old Buick. My engine is spotless inside.:TU:
     
  8. LARRY70GS

    LARRY70GS a.k.a. "THE WIZARD" Staff Member


    For awhile, Toyota was blaming the customers for not following the recommended oil change intervals. While not admitting any fault, they redesigned their engines in such a way as to fix the problem. I believe the general consensus is it had to do with the PCV system being defective causing accelerated sludge formation.
     
  9. rmstg2

    rmstg2 Gold Level Contributor

    Excuse me for being ignorant but what is a "Government Corporation"?
    Bob H.
     
  10. Junkman

    Junkman Well-Known Member

    The Congress incorporated the free "of the people,by the people,for the people" government entity as an operating business in 1871. Mainly,so that they could carry on certain functions of it's departments. But it has totally gotten out of hand and is the monster beast that it is now. Just about everything the governments do now is of corporate policy. Every kind of dealings you may have with any government office is by a contractual agreement. Especially since 1933 ,when Roosevelt stole everyone's property and gave it to the Bankers. Then he had the Supreme Court make a ruling in 1938 and changed all the courts in our nation to Equity Law courts-contract law. The federal government and Congress being an incorporated business entity called "The United States" bankrupted and was insolvent(again) in 1933 and was taken over by another corporate entity -privately owned- called the Federal Reserve Bank and have basically been the owners of "The United States" corporation ever since. Roosevelt/Congress invented "Public Policy" in the early '30's . The word "police" is derived from Roosevelt's Public "Policy". All police/law enforcement are basically code enforcers. They used to be called peace officers a long time ago. This is the result of Congress authorizing a private banking corporation to coin and regulate the value of our money in 1913. Traitors.
     
  11. rmstg2

    rmstg2 Gold Level Contributor

    OK But it isn't the government corporations that need to be rescued is it.
    Aren't GM and the others private corporations? There are a lot of contradictions in the posts I'm reading. It seems like if some of the people
    entered enough posts they would be arguing with themselves. Personally I still believe that with all the government regs. and the Union burden its impossible for the big 3 to compete with the foriegners.
    Bob H.
     
  12. Junkman

    Junkman Well-Known Member

    I think you are right about that Bob.
     
  13. Junkman

    Junkman Well-Known Member

    Here is a pretty good essay on the bankruptcy and money system which has resulted in our current finacial/credit problems.

    http://www.afn.org/~govern/bankruptcy.html

    This is from the Congressional Record,BTW.
     
  14. Junkman

    Junkman Well-Known Member

    This is quite maddening,too, if what this guy says really happens. Pieces seem to be falling in place.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KkLpJUiHUA4&feature=related

    We won't have to worry about GM going down. This must be the reason Bush deployed Army troops ( one brigade now with two more brigades soon) within the states Oct. 1 "to help quell civil unrest" as he put it.
     
  15. TuBBeD

    TuBBeD Well-Known Member

    Ted,

    Hal Turner (sp?) is incorrect in his assumptions. Whether a currency changes does not reflect things will change, as the value of currency is productivity. Economics dictate how things are controlled in life through money, not Government or anyother entity. What I am saying is, no matter what we call our currency, it won't vary in value because our dollar is re-named an "Amero." Any currency in the world is relevant to the productivity a country can produce so, I do not believe a word he says. And, if it is true it won't have anything to stand on because people will not work, where it will sustain our productivity levels as it has been with our currency as the American Dollar.
     
  16. Bad Buick

    Bad Buick Foe Fiddy Five

    I find it ironic the Big 3 top brass flew into Washington to beg for money in their privately owned jets.
     
  17. carcrazy455

    carcrazy455 Well-Known Member

    They calculated that the GM flight cost over $20,000.00 and that a Northwest flight was $288.00 while a first class flight was $837 round trip.

    I believe the Ford exec arrived by private plane also but the news did not mention the Chrysler exec. Is Chrysler a private company now?

    One reporter did ask if Toyota and Honda execs used private planes but the other reporter only said that he knew they were not in Washington begging for 25 billion.

    The Ford CEO makes 26 mill per year, has 8 planes in his fleet and his wife gets to use them as well.

    The GM CEO makes 16 mill per year and has 8 planes in his corporate fleet.

    http://news.search.yahoo.com/search/news?ei=UTF-8&p=auto+first+class&x=wrt&c=av

    I think that the big 3 should not get a hand out but they are not completely
    responsible for their demise. There are many other companies that do not have overpaid fatcats that are going to fail shortly.

    I do think the the big 3 have much more value than a bank or insurance company. When they disappear nobody really cares but when\if the big 3 shutdown someone will buy their equipment and start building cars in a much more custom or streamlined way. Most of their suppliers will still be needed. We will all still need cars. The names may change but the faces will stay the same.

    Mike
     
  18. Tomsriv

    Tomsriv Well-Known Member

    I don't know about you guys, but I am writing my congress people and senators to tell them to support the bailout. I would be really ashamed to have to choose between Chinese, Japanese and European cars because the American people had no faith in their countrymen to build a good car.
     
  19. nekkidhillbilly

    nekkidhillbilly jeffreyrigged youtube channel owner

    toyota is about as much trouble

    they cut 200 jobs yesterday in georgetown
     
  20. rogbo1

    rogbo1 Well-Known Member

    Quote -"If these guys built cars people wanted, this wouldn't even be an issue," Szakaly said.

    That to me says it all. I'm in favor of a bailout but Congress should
    stipulate that all the big 3 replace every CEO and VP in the company.
    Why give more money to people that have such horendous results.
    Remember it took an outsider at the top (Ioccoca) to save Chrysler the
    last time. I saw a little of the Congressional hearings with the big three
    big wheels. They were not very impressive to say the least. They even
    looked like losers!:spank: :rant:
     

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