Rebuild 8.2 in 68 LeSabre

Discussion in 'Got gears?' started by buicklesabre, Feb 23, 2010.

  1. buicklesabre

    buicklesabre Member

    Need advice on where to look for new axelshafts
    and a posi to complete my rebuild.
    It's got 2.93 ratio.
    Would like somting around 3.50

    Please help me.
     
  2. flynbuick

    flynbuick Guest

    Re: Rebuild 8,2 in 68 LeSabre

    3.42 and 3.64 are the only repro ratios for 68-70 buick 8.2 rears and they are very limited. Contact Monaz on this Board for the details.
     
  3. Woodsters

    Woodsters Woodster

    Re: Rebuild 8,2 in 68 LeSabre

    x2 Monzaz knows his stuff.

     
  4. monzaz

    monzaz Jim

    Re: Rebuild 8,2 in 68 LeSabre

    Do you have the length on those axle shafts? Probably sealed bearing shafts...But maybe large bearings. I know the Lesabre carrier center section area...But am learning the full size cars more this year. Do anyone out there know if the axle bearings are larger on the Lesabre compared to the standard A-body or will they be in the GS category?

    3.42 and 3.64 are available but pretty steep in price. I might still be able to get a better deal than the normal 459.00 price from FAbcraft. Posi is not a problem for the 2.93 or the 3.23 3.42 2.73 gears. So that is good and the price is the normal 380-410.00 price range depending on the posi we use.

    Jim
     
  5. buicklesabre

    buicklesabre Member

    Re: Rebuild 8,2 in 68 LeSabre

    Thanks Jim.

    I don't have the Axel shafts but I did a search on the
    web and came up with following;

    Axel shaft dia is 1.382
    press on bearig
    28 spline 60 degree spline

    Axel Id nr. 1382700 2-L
    oppsite side of bellhouse H, something and 22

    thanks again
    Henrik
     
  6. monzaz

    monzaz Jim

    Re: Rebuild 8,2 in 68 LeSabre

    Yah, that is all common skylark , So guess the bigger axles shafts were not used then.... What about the length of the axle shaft ? Jim
     
  7. buicklesabre

    buicklesabre Member

    Re: Rebuild 8,2 in 68 LeSabre

    you say common skylark.
    Are all buick 8.2 senter sections like?
    Can I use any in my rear end, standard or posi?

    If so, my carrier problem is solved.

    Is there any way I can messure the lenght without having the shaft?
    do you know if there are repro. shafts for this axel? Like from moser?


    I did a messure of the axel housing from b plate to b plate. (bare house without the breake shield plate.) it messured 149 cm or 58.66 " plate to plate.

    henrik
     
    Last edited: Feb 25, 2010
  8. monzaz

    monzaz Jim

    Re: Rebuild 8,2 in 68 LeSabre

    Ok did you hook the tape measure on each lip for the measurement or did you run from inside to inside measure?

    The rear is wider than the Skylark SO I would have to say they are longer for sure.

    1968-1970 10 bolt 8.2 skylark posi and gears WILL fit your 68-70 lesabre 8.2 10 bolt center.

    Yes I can get you Moser axle shafts I need the measurement from the carrier pinion spider gear shaft to the axle flange outer bearing seat. This measurement will be take by using a tape measure in through the axle tube until it butts up against the cross pin (spider gear pinion shaft). tell me that measurement and we can get them built.

    Jim
     
  9. buicklesabre

    buicklesabre Member

    Re: Rebuild 8,2 in 68 LeSabre

    Great news.

    I'm going away for the weekend. I'll try
    to have it done by monday.

    Thank you
    Henrik
     
  10. buicklesabre

    buicklesabre Member

    Re: Rebuild 8,2 in 68 LeSabre

    The boys at the shop here in norway who helped me with the disassemling of the rear end before it was sendt to powdercoating have missplaced some of the parts. Inc the carrier. They have been searching all weekend without finding it.
    Any other way I can meassure the lenght of my axel shafts?

    Henrik
     
  11. monzaz

    monzaz Jim

    Re: Rebuild 8,2 in 68 LeSabre

    TAke the tape measure through the center of the axle tube and measure from flange to flange (this is the complete axle housing flange to flange length). This will help me figure your axle length.
    Jim
     
  12. wkillgs

    wkillgs Gold Level Contributor

    Re: Rebuild 8,2 in 68 LeSabre

    Jim, I looked this up in the 1974 Buick parts book:

    Group 5.855 Rear Wheel Bearing
    64-early 67 LeSabres use the 8.2 with the same wheel bearings as the GS/Sportwagon. #907884 or RW507-GR

    Late 67- 70 LeSabres use a unique # 907800 not shared with other applications.

    Group 5.420 Rear Axle Shaft
    5000 series (LeSabre)
    Late 67 to 70
    #1381881 Shaft & Bearing. (3-1/16" Dia rear wheel bearing)
    That pn is not listed for any other apps.

    Group 5.529 Gear Set, R&P
    and
    Group 5.510 Case, Differential (less gears)
    68-70 30-40-5000 (Special-Skylark-LeSabre)series have the same listing.

    It appears the LeSabres have unique axles while the other components are shared with the A-bodies.
     
  13. monzaz

    monzaz Jim

    Re: Rebuild 8,2 in 68 LeSabre

    Great info WE appreciate that... So does it list the axle bearing diameter like 1.38 or 1.40 etc? What ws the wheel bolt pattern? full size 5 on 5 ?

    Sealed bearing or non sealed bearing.

    I KNOW I am the rear diff guy here BUT I just do not work on these full size cars. and am still learning too. :) Believe me it is all going into the memory bank. (paper too...lol)

    JIm

    Still need a length. Jim
     
  14. wkillgs

    wkillgs Gold Level Contributor

    Re: Rebuild 8,2 in 68 LeSabre

    Jim, I have a lead. sending you a PM.
     
  15. wkillgs

    wkillgs Gold Level Contributor

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  16. buicklesabre

    buicklesabre Member

    Re: Rebuild 8,2 in 68 LeSabre

    Hi Jim.

    Thanks for helping me.
    Really appreciate it

    the total lenght of the axelhouse, from flange to flange, is 159,2 cm
    or 62 11/16"

    Henrik
     
  17. monzaz

    monzaz Jim

    Re: Rebuild 8,2 in 68 LeSabre

    Looks like 30 3/8" to 30 1/2" lenght will be correct for the housing.

    Just have to check into the bearing area being sealed or non sealed. Jim
     
  18. buicklesabre

    buicklesabre Member

    Re: Rebuild 8,2 in 68 LeSabre

    I have been reading in the 1968 buick chassis service manual.
    I quote;
    The outer ends are supported in the axel housing by thrust type ball bearings which are factory packed for the life of the bearings and sealed on both sides.
    The axel shaft oil seals are located inboard of the bearings.

    hope this will lead us in the right direction.
    henrik
     
  19. monzaz

    monzaz Jim

    Re: Rebuild 8,2 in 68 LeSabre

    Yep they are sealed bearings. Jim
     
  20. buicklesabre

    buicklesabre Member

    Re: Rebuild 8,2 in 68 LeSabre

    hi Jim

    I`d like to measure the total lenght of the axel house again, just to be sure.

    regarding gear ratio I`m looking for 3.64 or the 3.42

    do you have any price for the shafts, carrier and gears?

    thanks again
    henrik
     

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